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indeed. the 3300X, when overclocked, compares to the 3600X / 2700X for 1080p gaming. I can’t wait to see how it scores on Passmark.

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I’m having a weird PC problem. my PC started being sluggish recently and when I checked the Windows task manager and HWiNFO64 reports, it was showing my CPU running between 780mhz - 798mhz. it didn’t go higher when I started running other software as it’s supposed to. my 6700’s stock speed is 3.4ghz. I tried different performance / power settings…went from balanced to high to maximum, reboots between all changes, no difference; CPU is stuck at 780mhz. my work tech told me to make some tweaks to the registry, which forced the CPU to go into a state where the CPU is forced to run at the base clock. when I did that, it reported 3.4ghz. when I changed it back to default like I was told to do, it went right back to 780mhz.

so I’m actually quite impressed at what a 780mhz 4c / 8t CPU with 16GB of RAM on a SATA SSD can do…but it’s a far cry from where it should be. <_<

The CPU getting locked to slow clock speed can sometimes be caused by a power setting. Is Windows set to use performance mode? You computer uses a standard ATX power supply right? And not something like a laptop supply right?

hey marc, I did share that changing the power / performance setting did not change the low clock speed. the only thing that did was forcing the registry to run the CPU at base clock 100% of the time.

I have a Lenovo M900x Tiny with a i7-6700 in it. so its powered by a high wattage notebook brick and notebook blower style cooler, so I don’t want it to be 3.4ghz all the time. the cooler gets bloody noisy when he CPU starts to heat up.

I have thought about finding a T processor and swapping it out so the cooler doesn’t have to work so hard. the current x series Tiny gives you the option of a 65w desktop CPU or the 35w T CPU with a GPU.

I thought it was just thermal throttling…but nothing I did made the CPU speed waver. it didn’t boost like it should, it just slowed down to snails pace as I added tasks.

That sounds like thermal throttling (maybe shit thermal paste) or a lack of power. Is anything else drawing a lot? If you’re powering it with a notebook brick it might struggle. Check to see if fans / coolers are operational (if one of them croaked the something might decide to limit clock speed but that’s just a wild guess).

You looked in the bios already I assume? Nothing abnormal there?

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I have a Dell work laptop that will get locked to a really low speed if I plug in a non OEM power supply. So I’m wondering if a power supply issue could be the cause. You don’t by chance have a second power supply do you? Also HWinfo showed it wasn’t thermal throttling right? One last thing you could do is shut it down and reconnect the power plug

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I second that. Is this a new machine and are you using the power brick you got with it? Is this a cpu you swapped in? Did you try to oc it at some point?

I haven’t made any changes to it at all, as I said, it just started chugging suddenly. and because the PC didn’t fail to boot, load or crash when I forced it to run at the base clock, I’d say the power supply it came with is just fine.

I am going to give it an overhaul though. looking to swap the 65w CPU out with a 35w version to ease up on the heat and the noise the cooler makes when it spins up to keep the temps in check. if I do that, I would obviously have to reapply the thermal paste…I’d use some of the stuff I’ve got from Noctua. I might swap out the M.2 SATA SSD for an NVMe I have that’s spare as well. it doesn’t need RAM as I’ve got 16GB installed already.

Linus grew a beard? He doesn’t look 17 anymore, so that’s good.

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This doesn’t sound like real thermal throttling to me, it sounds like a broken mitigation feature. Some motherboards have what’s called a slow mode to allow the system to boot without proper cooling available. I believe ~800MHz is the standard clock to lock at under slow mode.

I would try clearing your BIOS on the off-chance it’s just a firmware bug, but failing that you should send it in to be fixed if it’s still under warranty.

If it’s not you’d need to look on the motherboard for a small switch (about half the size of a tic-tac) labelled “SLOW” or some variant of that. From what I can see it should be above the RAM slots. Switch it up, boot the system, then shutdown again and switch it back down.

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actually, I just installed a BIOS update that Lenovo released for my M900x…so change. in fact, I changed the registry stetting so it forces the CPU to run at stock again. Windows task manager says it’s running at 3.4ghz, however the PC is still sluggish. so I checked what HWiNFO64 reported and it says the CPU is still running at 780mhz.

so this weekend I’m gonna tear it down, give it a good cleaning, inspect the board for swollen caps n re-seat the blower with new grease and see what happens. if it’s still the same, I will re-install Windows.

well…with the ppm setting forcing the CPU to run stock, it actually takes two restarts to take effect. one restart, windows task manager reports stock speed, but HWiNFO64 said it was still 780mhz and the PC was still sluggish. when I powered up this morning, it was more responsive and the cooler is much louder…it’s almost howling right now, in fact…and HWiNFO reports 3.4ghz now too.

Gonna be upgrading my PC and I’m not very knowledgable. I’m thinking of getting these, does it check out?




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What’s your budget?
Also, PCPartPicker is a great resource to start on.

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The mobo might not be compatible? AMD 5 3600s are X570 not B450 iirc <---- nvm, it ‘works’. If you’re looking for longevity and performance I’d go with X570 chipset though.

For the X570 boards the best cheap option that I could find is the MSI X570 Gaming Plus (with or without wifi). That’s what I currently run with my AMD 5 3600 and I’ve had no issues.

The RAM should be fine.

I would highly recommend going with a Samsung EVO of any generation. Reliable and fast. Might be less storage and a little pricier though.

What case are you throwing them in? PSU? GPU?

Also what cooler are you thinking of plopping on the CPU?

I had the same choice to make when I built my 3600x and I ended up going with x570 as well.
If you do any future upgrades, it supports PCI-e 4.0. Up to you, but you’ll reach the limit of x450 even though it is technically compatible.

Also, I have been seeing a lot of NVMe on sale lately in case you want to peek at those.

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I’m still working out the details but and I don’t have a definitive budget but I’d like to keep it relatively inexpensive. I’m gonna look up all the links y’all posted. I’m hoping to keep my current GPU if you guys think it’s not too outdated, it’s a 4gb vram gtx 770.

The gigabyte b450 board caught my eye cause it has spdif which a lot don’t seem to have.

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GPU should be fine unless you wanna play games on high graphics. I could sell you a used MSI GTX 1070 if you want for dirt cheap :stuck_out_tongue:

The MSI board has optical (which I’m using). Idk about the other MSI boards, but I think they all have optical at the very least.

Invest in the mobo. RAM is always easily switchable. If you have to lose anywhere, go with slower or smaller RAM.

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Hmm, very interesting. I’m down to get the x570, it seems to be a $100 jump for just the wifi? Or are there more features I’m missing? As much as I would like wifi/bluetooth it doesn’t seem very worth lol


Also, check out /r/buildapcsales
3600 is on sale atm.
3600x is still on my same sale.

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