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yeh…but I’m talking about consumer space, not enterprise. :wink:

If pattern holds, I would think that DDR6 would start at 32GB DIMMs and move to 64GB DIMMs within 2-3 years of widespread adoption, so that is very plausible. And you’re right, it will be really cool to see that.

DDR5 scales much better than DDR4 for density. Samsung is already talking about their 32GB DDR5 IC’s.

Maybe we will see 64GB DDR5 DIMMs in a couple of years then. I hadn’t heard about that. I just knew that DDR5 was starting at 16GB DIMMs.

Only 10 of those will be needed to install warzone in system mem.

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@Michael that will be a boon…it will probably take a generation or two of DDR5 platforms from AMD and Intel, but making 16GB the default standard / minimum will be a good move!

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Yep. And given what prices will be like for the first 12-18 months anyways, getting 32GB kits minimum will make it a little easier to swallow.

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20%? That’s really extreme. I suspect I will get at best a few percent for my system. I’m running a 3080ti at 4k. But I’m mainly interested in improving my 1% lows. Once my 5800X arrives (upgrading from 3600X), I doubt I’ll be CPU bound any more.

Now I have figure out what to buy. The Crucial ballistix 2x16, 3600 kit would have been the easy choice. But those likely aren’t shipping as dual rank anymore. I could go with the high performance and cheap Patriot 4400 Mhz, single rank kit ($127) and run it at 3800 Mhz. I imagine I’d be able to run it at the fast Samsung B-die timings (from Ryzen RAM calculator). Do you have any suggestions?

Why would you use a 3080 at 1080P, unless you are benchmarking? Even if you discount the whole price aspect, the architecture of the 3080 is not well suited for lower resolutions VS higher resolutions.

If you are gaming at 4K with a 3080Ti, I wouldn’t expect to see any uplift to your avg frame-rate, but it isn’t completely unreasonable to think you could see some gains to your 1% and 0.1% lows, but how much, I’m really not sure.

As to the Crucial 2x16 kit being Dual Rank or not, it’s honestly a toss up. Since Crucial is owned by Micron, all of their sticks are Micron dies. And Micron does have 16GB Single Rank DIMMs, so I couldn’t tell you which it would be. As for suggestions, how much do you want to spend/not spend? Oh, and do you care about what they look like? Do they also need to be fairly low profile or does the height of the heat spreader not matter?

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Depends on the game it is completely possible to CPU bind a 5800x even at 4K. If the game is particularly single threaded or handles a lot on a single thread and only passes off some of the load it might look like the over all utilization is low but you can still be CPU bound.

But overall it doesn’t actually matter you will always be bound by something. The only thing that matters is if you get enough performance that you are happy with how it runs.

Edit:
Just noticed buildzoid has the kit I use in his list, but wow the price on memory has spiked… I guess clocking out of the PC scene while all the shortages have been going on was not a bad call.

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I Probably wouldn’t spend more than $200. I’d most like go with the best bang for the buck option. Looks don’t matter at all and I doesn’t have to be low profile.

I didn’t think prices increased that much. How much was it?

I got my G.Skill Ripjaws 3600 cl14 32GB kit for about $250 so anywhere from 50-100 if part picker is correct.

To be fair it was during the holiday buying season so it might have been lower then normal as well.

Edit:
I do apologize to the PC gods, I know RGB makes computers faster, but I can’t in good conscience actually use RGB RAM.

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So in that case, and assuming that all you want to do is just enable XMP, I’d grab 2 kits of this.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2TFKHx/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4b

Yeah, over the past few months prices for some DRAM kits have gone back up by quite a bit.

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I liked the look of the Trident Z RGB heat spreader too much to not buy it when I built back in November, and then I promptly turned all the RGB in my system off. :yum:

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I really do like the Trident line and usually prefer it since it seems to get the better chips… that being said I am really not someone who likes the way a lot of the DIY space has chosen to go.

I really miss the days I could get a really good airflow case and not have a glass side pannel… but I mostly build ITX builds now so there is less of that since there is well less room for anything not strictly needed in an ITX case.

I’m not quite sure what I think about glass panels. One the one hand, it’s made companies put out better looking components since you can now see them inside the case. But it also means that we no longer have that side fan mount, which sucks. Thankfully, closed off front panels are mostly being relegated back to oblivion where they belong. Thank you, Gamer’s Nexus. :raised_hands:

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Amen to the death of closed off front panels… well I can accept them on things like the Sugo 14 from Silverstone since the rest is open and a open front would do little to help the airflow path over the components in a small case like that. For a full sized tower there really is no excuse.

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Yeah, it’s not like it can’t be done. The 011-Dynamic series and Cooler Master SL600M have shown you can have a closed front panel and still have good airflow.

Lian Li also makes the one RGB product I will gladly buy and never turn on the RGB. Those SL/AL fans are amazing and so convenient for good cable management.

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