I have a small case with adapters, of course I donât have that one, Geekria makes some really nice adapters. I also like their IEM cases.
What does it say? I canât translate -_-
Use Google translate
It doesnât make much sense. Seems like he prefers Timeless?
Hooray Ordered S12. Even got nice juicy discount when asked for one
Something like that, but itâs a vendor soâŠ
Woohoo my S12 is on its way to me via Yanwen thanks @shuoer for getting it out so quickly. Letâs hope it doesnât get stuck due to Chinese New Year holidays
That is what I call Customer Service and power of @PopinTeddy. A call to action from you, one call from @shuoer to Polish post office and now it is suddenly out for delivery to me today
thanks guys!
Haha nice! Excited to read your impressions!
Whoa, that is some godly PR power to be able to move things even in customs abroad
Canât wait for yall to get it; we need more feedback than just me, @nymz , and a few that have nothing but just positives to say about it lol
Ok, I am after first few tracks. I am not a big tip roller - I have my own favourite tips and I donât experiment too much. With stock tips I have some problems with proper fit. WIth default tips (Audiosense s400) I have it quite ok, but nothing crazy (like I have in Tea for example). It is very similar to the experience with Mele - I guess the flat inner surface of the shell does not work the best for me - this weird protrusion in Tea directs the nozzle more deep in my canal.
Is the hype real - yes, I guess? Unboxing experience, build quality, stock cable - all top notch, really - one of the best I had.
Initial sound impression? Great, great, great - definitely a keeper set.
There is one thing which is a little bit on pessimistic side in my head right now though. I felt it more or less even before Tea (that I felt in love immediately) and Tea kind of threw this feeling away for some time. But it seems I never have this WOW feeling that I expect to have when I am waiting for the delivery.
I was expecting wow feeling when I upgraded to Pinnacle P2 from EP630 - there was none.
I expected wow for my WF-1000XM3 (sic!) - there was none.
I expected wow feeling when I moved to T800 - there was very little wow.
I expected wow when I bought Mele - there was little wow.
Now I also expected huge WOW. And it is great set indeed for the price, donât get me wrong. But is it really WOW? I am not sure. Music sounds great out of it, but it is the same music I know forever nothing new pops up here and there (not like it is fair to expect from this set that ut should reveal something that was not resolved by Tea already). I guess I would sit down along with it at home in my bed chillling out (not at work when someone constantly approaches me with some problems) and I would have different mindset.
Just a quick note:
Everything in this set is as described above I cannot see a weak point of this set - bass is as tight as can be, mids and vocal are great, soundstage is fair etc. You just need to buy this set as long as it is so cheap as it is.
I guess I always underestimate the effect of the mindset to the overall perception
Thanks for sharing! Glad your experience echoes others up to now - at least QC seems to be better than the Timeless
Sounds like youâre describing the classic phenomenon of diminishing returns in this hobby. Is the Tea 5 times better than the Mele? No, since the change in listening experience versus money spent is not linear. Sad but thatâs the nature of the game - I feel your pain haha. Perhaps the nuanced differences in SQ will become apparent when youâre critically listening at home later.
I would say give it like a week or two of listening and burning in. Iâve heard that planar drivers benefit a lot of usage, so thereâs that aspect too. Plus brain burn-in haha.
Haha, diminishing returns of the brains of those whoâve experienced tons of WOW factor from previous and earlier sets Iâd say
Anticipation for this set must be high for you, especially after the few initial reports, but also so many times our minds get tricked into thinking âwhen dafuq is my set coming I CANT WAIT anymore!â = âthis set must be S tier.â I had a few sets like that before, Tea, MEST, Variations. But after a longer listening, the mindset will reset back to normal without the anticipation factor, and thatâs how Tea and MEST are now endgame.
More interesting for me tho: Did you notice the unique planar timbre right away?
(then again, you also had Timeless, so that might not be so special anymore)
I usually get 2.5mm balanced, which isnât an option here. This gets me to my questions.
What connector are people getting?
How is the stock cable?
I am tempted to get the 4.4mm balanced and get an adapter, so I can use my 2.5mm connector on my BTR5. It is going to look silly, since the adapter and connector will be longer than the BTR5. If the stock cable is meh, then I wouldnât care, and just plan on using a different cable.
4.4mm for more juice.
If you need 2.5mm just get an adapter.
Stock cable is literally the best cable Iâve owned, competing against the Xinhs and NiceHCK cables I have⊠No kinks no tangle, pin-straight after unwrapping it from roadie wrap every time.
Yes, I guess you are completely right, my mind would reset soon. Interesting part that only Tea got me into this immediate fall in love from IEMs. I would let you know later after few days how it ends up feeling.
Regarding the planar timbre - I did not have timeless in my ears at all, so only planars I heard are HE400i, HE400SE and Sundara. I guess there is some of this planar tightness, but it was not immediate feeling I had when I started to listen to them that they are very different in timbre from any DD based hybrid. My ears sucks though I think
@John_W_Clark cable is best you could get. I got mine with 3.5mm since it fits all sources I have.
Also regarding the power requirements - definitely they take some more current than Tea. On hip dac on low gain I can get away easily from small channel imbalance on low pot settings I struggle with sometimes on louder tracks with Tea.
i got 4.4mm too looks like a 2.5mm cable isnât/wonât be an option at least for the foreseeable future (based on shuoers responses to a 2.5mm option), it is a really nice stock cable if maybe a little plasticky, but iâm using a xinhs 4core graphene 2.5mm for btr5/on the go
For 16 ohm impedance current delivery is more important than voltage, so if your source can power the S12 with 3.5mm it should be preferable as balanced have double the output impedance, but I donât know if thatâs going to be noticeable, especially as planars usually have flat impedance.