No rush mate! Thanks for sharing your insights!
That takes me back! Good luck!
Yesterday evening I took some more time for critical listening and switching between the 7Hz Timeless and the S12 and found that they differ more from each other than I initally thought. So instead of trying to articulate how these 2 sets differ I decided to endeavor to record sound demos. As Iâm a big fan of sound demos (Shout out to Danâs Audio Reviews, Tharbamar and Zeos) and as I recently purchased a IEM measurement kit I thought letâs give it a shot. I think the demos succeed to give you an impression about their sonic characteristics.
Most importantly I learned 2 things.
- Frequency response graphs are more misleading than I initially assumed
- Donât assess audio gear on the sideline like I did yesterday while doing office work
Sound demos
The Recording chain was as follows:
Roon â IEM â Artificial Ear IEC711 coupler â Audacity (mono recording) â Export as wav files â Normalize wav files with iZotope Elements â Create video
Listen with neutral headphones if possible.
Here we go.
First track is a contemporary jazz piece showcasing all the good jazz stuff: Marcus Miller - Trip Trap
Second track is a female choral classical containing only strings and high pitch female singing
Third track shows the bass/hip-hop capabilites The Roots - I Donât Care
Btw, this track must have the deepest sub-bass droning throughout the whole track. I guess this is some kind of easter egg put in by The Roots. Can you hear it too?
Fourth track is classic hard rock Thin Lizzy - Hearth Attack
Final remarks
For me the Timeless wins in the bass department. The S12 is leading the rest of the spectrum.
In the end I still like the S12 more. Also I find the S12 has a wider stage than the Timeless.
Sheez thank you so much for a review with demo comparisons!
Youâre welcome. The S12 might appear sibilant or overly bright in the demos but they arenât in reality imo.
Holy hek whatâs up with that treble sparkle with s12? Is it there irl too? With first song itâs really noticable, reminds me of 120kbs compression⊠Timeless sounds normal. I was about to buy S12 but after hearing that gonna wait for more reviews
Listening to the S12 right now, I can confirm itâs not there IRL.
Itâs more of a recording issue; best you get out of that demo is the signature difference between the two but not the exact IRL signature of both respectively.
How does it compare to timeless?
I donât have the Timeless, but be prepared that the comparison will be coming in hot and soon since a lot of folks that have both are just receiving S12
Iâm getting IEM envy. How do they compare with other IEMs in your collection? Or to your Hifiman for that matter?
I havenât even gotten 1hr with it yet, canât tell now, need to let my brain burn in lol. But for $119, this is out of the ball park FOR REAL. I do get flashbacks of HE400se, but with better and thicker bass. Probably not as clean as HE400se in the highs, but for overall balance tonality and enjoyment, big YES.
Best blind buy Iâve made so far in the hobby.
Ok no rush! I shouldâve jumped on the early bird sales
Exactly the same here.
Once they are back in stock, you bet Iâll immediately get one as well
Theyâre out of stock??
They are not available via hifigo, but still are on official Letshuoer website and their AliExpress account
Yeah, at least at Hifigo, which is my go-to store where I buy practically everything from.
I guess you are from VAT zone then and their shipping policy?
If only Linsoul or shenzenaudio have this buyers protection on tax then all those opportunities would open (Oracle, Monarch, B2D)⊠That would get me broken for sure
Yeah same! Iâve never had any problem with Hifigo; theyâve always been fast and throughout when I ordered from them. Itâs also a plus that they ship very fast to Europe (usually just six to ten days to get to me, longest was two weeks) and I never had to pay VAT.
Wow that means they ship from Europe. Dang why are they out of stock