Curious to see what you think about it
Whatās the big deal about these? I hear a lot of people say they are unlike anything else for pure listening enjoyment, and I usually hear comments about the wide soundstage, bass, and detail. They seem very interesting to me, maybe possibly something I would get in the far off future as my next pair of fun headphones that are higher end.
Headphones I have tried that I would be comparing them to/using for reference:
Sennheiser Momentum Original
Audioquest Nighthawk Carbon
Koss Kph30i
Sennheiser HD6XX
Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 80 & 250 ohm versions
1More Triple Driver āOver-Earā.
If anybody has experience with any of these headphones and these Argons , how would they sound compared to these?
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Ordered September 6th, still waitingā¦ I definitely think they should update their website and extend the lead time by a few weeks as they have been swamped and are trying to catch up on orders. I did email them a month ago asking how many more weeks I should expect to wait, but I still havenāt heard back from them. Iām sure theyāve been trying to catch up on tons of other emails though, thanks to the DNS hijacking thing that happened to their site. I trust that Ryan is doing his best to finish orders, and if it takes a few extra weeks for my argons to arrive Iām totally okay with that. Iāll update you guys when they arrive. Hopefully before Christmas haha.
I have a pair of beyerdynamic DT770 Proās (80 ohm version) and those legendarily cheap Koss KPH30iās. Once I get my Argons Iāll compare between what I have and get back to you. Happy listening!
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The argons would be closer to the width of the dt770 250 ohm imo, with a more extended and even bass response assuming you have a powerful amp. I think the midrange would be somewhat recessed but still good, and the treble is pretty interesting. This is going off of the protean pad argons btw.
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Iām thinking of selling argons and getting the Beyerdynamic mmx 2 because I need a new gaming headset and a plus has that that sound stage and bass. I also donāt have a crazy amp to power them rn using the liquid spark and using the topping mx3 as a dac/speaker amp.
You could probably sell them for a pretty high price, just considering the fact that people who buy them new STILL have to wait so flippinā long, whereas they would have an almost non-existent wait if buying yours.
Thatās what I was thinking
If thereās anyone within the EU willing to sell their Argons at a friendly price, I might be interested 
Dang I live in the US bud
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They came! Literally the same day that I posted a comment on here, Ryan emailed me and told me they were being shipped the next day. Anyways, so far I love these cans! I definitely like how they donāt hurt my ears with the treble (looking at you Beyer and Audio Technica lol). Anyways, Iām currently driving them with a JDS Labs Atom amp and they really start to shine on high gain at like 1:30. Z was right, these things are power hungry! Iāll include a picture on here and explain my setup a bit.
Micca Origen g2 as USB to SPDIF, SPIDF to EL DAC, then EL to Atom. Oh also, I decided to get the ZMF protein pads if youāre curious.
As far as sound goes, they are closest to my DT-770 Pros (80 ohm) but with a wider sound stage and donāt fall apart on more complicated pieces (like mountains from the interstallar soundtrack). Detail is there but it doesnāt hurt you at loud volumes (soft flute is soft, not OH GOD OUCH STOP cough ATH50x cough). The Argons donāt have as much treble as the 770s (thatās good imo haha), and the bass on the 770s (80 ohm) kinda fall apart when pushed a bit. The Argons do a great job retaining itās detailed bass even at louder volumes. Comparing them to the KPH30iās the Argons have a much fuller sound to them, also the overall bass extension and presence is better. Going back to sound-stage, the KPH30iās have a bit of sound-stage but not nearly to the extent of the Argons. When listening to reference recordingsā classical pieces with the Argons I feel like Iām there listening to it live. Anyways, the Argons were well worth the wait and I know Iām going to enjoy them for a long time. Hope this helps anyone curious about them! Happy listening!
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Awesome! Iām glad you like them!
Personally I could not stand the treble on DT 770 80 ohm version, way too sibilant. The 250 ohm sounded much more tolerable in the highs. Would you say they have more or less midrange than the 770 80 ohm? I hear that it is only slightly dialed back on the Argons compared to those, and while not the focus, is still detailed pretty good.
Could I ask what is the purpose of using the Micca Origen to convert to SPDIF? Why not just connect to the USB of the EL DAC?
I use the Micca as a USB to SPDIF because I think I got a faulty EL DAC. Whenever I use my EL DAC over USB I get intermittent pop sounds (like every 5 minutes). Iāve done everything under the sun to try and fix it (different USB cables, background services, power profiles, etcā¦), but I still havenāt found a fix. Anyways, I bought a cheapo USB to SPDIF converter online to test if it would do the same over SPDIF. Fortunately, it gave me no pops. But, the cheap unit I bought only supported up to 16 bit 48000 kHz audio. So I bought the Micca Origen G2 to get the most out of my SPDIF connection.
Ah gotcha, thanks for the explanation!
I would say that the mid-range is smoother on the argons when compared to the DT 770 80 ohm. I feel like the argons do a better job presenting the midrange than the 770s. For example when listening to vocals, the argons do an excellent job enveloping you in the voice without losing any detail. The 770s on the other hand sound like they are just singing right into your ears (which may be a plus for some). Oh, and Sās can kill you on the 770s (but thatās just 770s being sibilant). Hope that answers your question! Happy listening!
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thanks for the minireview!
Iām really interested, though, since Iām considering buying them - I donāt like the sound signature of the KPH30is, I feel theyāre all bass and no mids. Are the Argons like that?
Basically Iām asking if the Argons are significantly different sounding than the KPH30is. Because if theyāre the Koss but just BETTER at what they do, I think Iām gonna pass. I love great mids, you can always compensate for the bass, but not the other way around.
Thatās very interesting. I found the KPH30i to be very warm, bassy, and a lot of midrange focus too, but dialed back in the treble a good bit. The vocals sound much more forward with them to me than other headphones I have tried (except maybe for the HD6xx).
From what it sounds like, the Argons are more V shaped, whereas the KPH30i have more of a declining slope starting from the bass. Argons probably sound much much wider, more detailed bass, while the midrange is dialed back, while still having good detail, just not the focus. The treble is also elevated compared to the midrange, and very detailed.
I am still intrigued how you find the KPH30i having no mids. I find the mids to be very good on them.
Perhaps you are finding the bass overpowering and bleeding into the midrange? If so, there are some other headphones that are more midrange focused that do not have a lot of bass.
Examples:
HD600
One of the best ever for neutrality and vocals.
Grado SR60e
Leaning 10% more towards treble than nuetrality, with very little bass.
Koss KSC75
Less bass, more emphasis on highs, mids, and detail. Worth trying even if you may not like them just for the price.
And if you still want a Fostex, the T60rp is a much more detail focused headphone than the Argons. About the same price, but you can buy them without having to wait months, and return them if you donāt like them.
EDIT: Forgot to include HD6xx. Basically the Massdrop edition of the HD650.
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I absolutely love the KSC75, thatās more of the signature Iām into. Havenāt heard the rest of these (unless you count the 58x Jubilee?). Iāve been recommended the AKG K712, apparently theyāre similar.
The Argons have been a top contender not because of the bass, but because I need an excellent closed-back with great soundstage. Not that I have anything against open-backs, but Iām rarely in a situation where I have the room to myself, so closed-back is basically a priority.
What about the T60 Argons? Nobody seems to mention those
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Most people havenāt heard them, as they are fairly newer I think
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