I was wondering if someone can help me with something.
The LP should ,If possible, not be used 6. SE because the Output is not as good. But iāll get a Headphone that cant be balanced without modding it. The DT177x.
So how can i use the better Output (XLR) from the LP to the DT177x.
There are Adapters for 6.3 and 3.5 to 4 Pole XLR in DIY sections but i can Imagine i cant just expect that to work. Heres one of them as an example.
Do not use these, you can damage your amp and your headphones at the same time. The dt177x go uses a 4 pin mini xlr connector, you can get a balanced cable for them and use them normally
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Wait there are cables for Mini xlr to Male xlr 4 Pole? Uff i didnt even search for it. Stupid
Here is an example from periapt cables
You prob canāt get that were you are, but look for other cable makers that might be able to support something like this. All you need is a mini 4 pin xlr on the headphone side to a 4 pin xlr on the amp side of things
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Okay nice done i shouldāve figured this out myself. But i suspected i couldānt Just get away with buying an adapter. Well thanks!
So people actually Mod it just to get a rather cheap Headphone truly balanced and Not because they wanted to use the balanced Output.
Yes that wonāt work. Make sure to never try and convert the balanced output of an amp to single ended. You can convert a balanced headphone for use on a single ended amp, but you cannot use a single ended headphone on a balanced amp
So as long as i have at least a Mini XLR or 4.4 or 2.5 it works, right? And im just guessing since Most Adapters that i found are only for 2.5 and 4.4.
So a balanced connector on the amp side would be the 4.4mm pentaconn, 4 pin xlr, 2.5mm trrs, and sometimes the mini 4 pin xlr. On the headphone side for the 177x go it would be a 4 pin mini xlr.
A balanced to balanced adapter would look like this
This would let you plug in a 2.5mm balanced cable into an amp with only 4 pin support. You donāt need this in your case, you just need the mini 4 pin xlr to 4 pin xlr cable to balance the 177x go
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Yea i just meant the other connections for the future. Iāll buy a Mini to Male XLR right now.
Then im happy i can get the Output without modding them.
Thanks again man! Superb Help.
Just wondering have you found a cable like that over there?
Im still looking. Sec. Iwas talking in Discord actually 
Yea Here it is also from Audioverse. I got my Cable for LCD2C and Arya from Here.
I have multiple Options the First two are Length and color and the other two are the connectors to the Headphone and to the AMP.
But i think the Cheap connectors should be enough i dont think i would need a 50 euro Connector
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That looks like it would work 
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Nice thanks.
I had the same issue after swapping out several dacs with both SE and xlr i gave up and sent it back. Loved the sound but that boost after 10ish made the amp unusable.
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Iām not going to do a full-on nuts review like I usually do on the Liquid Plat, mostly because I donāt own and donāt have much experience with any other amps in this $500-800 tier. I will give a few thoughts though, and do the best comparison I can with the Asgard 3. These thoughts will be based on the LP with stock tubes (Electro Harmonix 6922). I havenāt tube rolled yet, but Iām sure thatās an itch I will need to scratch before too long. Also, because Iām sure youāre curious, Iāve used balanced-modded DT-880 600 ohm, Focal Elegia, HiFiMan Edition X V2, and Massdrop + Fostex TH-X00 Purpleheart both before and after a full Lawton mod to Lawtonās purpleheart cups on the Liquid Plat. Iāve used the SMSL SU-8 and iFi Zen as DACs, mostly with both connected balanced.
The Liquid Plat strikes me as a really good amp. It is warm, wide, and relaxed without seemingly sacrificing much in the way of detail. The spatial performance is really good; wide soundstage, good imaging, solid separation, depth, and layering. But to me the standout sonic feature is the timbre. Vocals and instruments, and well basically everything, sound very natural and organic. In other words, voices sound more like voices, pianos sound more like pianos, horns sound more like horns, and so on, than any other amp Iāve tried. I canāt detect any real grain or noise either. And for being a tube-hybrid, it is dead silent. Even cranking the pot when nothing is playing, itās very quiet. I should also note that these comments apply to the balanced headphone output. The single ended output really is not so great. Donāt buy this amp if your primary headphones are single-ended only. It will disappoint. This amp is and needs to used as a balanced amp. However, there is a minimal performance hit from using the RCA inputs instead of the XLR. Itās not zero, but itās perfectly useable and still very high-performing using RCA inputs and balanced headphone output. I also donāt pick up any obvious ātubey-nessā to the sound either, like I did when I had a Darkvoice (however Iāll put in the disclaimer that tube amps donāt inherently sound thick and gooey; some are very clean).
There is more than enough power. There is no gain control, but it does not struggle to drive high impedance dynamic loads or high-current demanding planars. The bass is deep, powerful, and controlled. However, this power that feels unlimited and lack of gain control does have an annoying catch: the loudness takes a HUGE jump when the potentiometer gets to somewhere in the 10:00-11:00 range. The best way I can describe it is like this: the pot goes 8:00-9:00-10:00-DEATH. This loudness jump can be mitigated to varying degrees if you use a DAC or preamp with a volume control. That does give you more precise control and decreases the magnitude of the volume jump in that 10-11 range, but that jump is still always there, and annoying.
The LP also runs hot. Some of that is its tube preamp stage, but also itās just a warm running amp. Itās noticeably warmer to the touch than even the Asgard 3, but never reaches a temperature where burns are a concern. Still, itās probably wise to make sure that itās in a well-ventilated shelf/rack space.
Iāll do a quick comparison with the Asgard 3, as thatās the jump I made. The A3 was my workhorse for several months until the LP came along. The A3 still has a place in one of my systems because itās flatout the better single ended amp and in terms of peak performance is really not all that far behind. Truthfully, most of the differences are subtle. The LP is slightly wider in staging with slightly better imaging and separation. The LP provides just a dash more overall detail. The A3 doesnāt suffer from that potentiometer issue, though. However, I think the LP separates itself from the A3 the most with its timbre. The LP sounds more natural and closer to real life in that way. That really is saying something, because for my money timbre is one of the Asgard 3ās greatest strengths too, especially for its asking price, and even more especially when itās compared to THX and other op-amp based amplifiers that are its current primary competition. However, voices just sound more like voices - and so forth - through the LP than the A3.
Iāve heard others with more listening experience say that the Liquid Platinum is a good deal even at its original $799 asking price. Monoprice is currently selling it for $484 [EDIT - As of 9 Sept. 2020 the price is 516.09USD] . IMO, thatās a steal. Itās going to be locking down my primary amp duties for awhile. If youāre looking around for amps in the ~$500 range, be sure to check this one out too.
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As you know I have the same two ampsā¦ I wish I could have thought of the words as you obviously have with this detailed reportā¦ For my own experience I enjoy both side by side for their individual strengths. The A3 for its single ended output as well as running my monitors and the LP for its power and balanced out. For the DAC I use the BF2 and run true balanced to the LP and SE to the A3. I also used to run this setup from my SU8 and it was quite good but having the BF2 seems to bring these two amps to a whole new level. I much prefer the BF2 with BOTH of these amps. Volume is pegged on the BF2 and I do not really think āDeathā comes until around 12ā¦ Maybe I am just deaf? As for the heat yes it definitely gets warm after a session of jamming out to some good motivating musicā¦My A3 does as well but it is also on 24/7 so it would be. I simply turn it all the way down when away from the machine. The LP is only on when being actually used and given sufficient time to warm up before useā¦ Thank you for your thoughts.
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Thank you for your thoughts as well. BF2 is likely my next dacā¦
Oh? So you will have LP + BF2? Thatās my combination currently. Will be looking forward to hearing what you think on that one if you get around to it.
is this volume issue something thatās been determined to be a pot problem for some amps or a systemic issue with LPs in general? Iāve not experienced it on mine but then again Iām feeding it from an ENOG2 Pro set to medium.
If thereās a loud bump in volume and itās always around the same area on the sweep, then IMO it would be indicative of a pot issue as changing the gain would simply kick the issue up the dial.
@WaveTheory you mention thereās no gain on the amp, just confirming the right push button on the amp is a gain switch.
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