I cannot compute.
Same, for the original price it’s going for, it’ll be a no for me
my personal sub $150 king
How do these two go together? MSRP is something like 80$ (<150$) or is it? Or are you saying you wouldn’t usually buy one of the sub 150$ IEMs?
Yup. I meant that if they priced it at $80 and given the lack of reviews out there, it would never have come across my mind to purchase this set. However, now that I’ve got it for a mere £18, for the IEMs I’ve tried and owned under $150, I’d choose this over anything I’ve heard in this range. (that said, I’m not familiar with KZ/CCA signature but it doesn’t seem to fit my taste). 'Tis a personal choice 
What I’ve tried and owned under $150: KZ ZEX, T2, T4, BL-05s, Mele, VR3000
Thanks for clarifying
Thanks for your review too, I’m also using folk’s feedback to recalibrate and understand where my ears/preferences sit in this hobby. There’s the Tea & Mele cults that I can reference, but not many folks like the BL-05s like I do which was my fav sub $150 before VR3000.
I tried listening to Queen: LIve at Wembley Stadium, and got nice holographic sound presentation. Has anyone else tried live recordings? Orchestral pieces also sound nice. Maybe the wide soundstage is more evident in these specific settings? I’m enjoying them, at least. Need to A/B more but so far I’m pleased!
Also, found this review from Audio46: Final Audio VR 3000 Gaming Earphones - Unboxing + Review - YouTube. Interesting backstory to its development! The comments are also insightful - somewhat polarised impressions…
Edit: Apparently this is good for ASMR, in case people are into that…
Cool interested to hear your thoughts as it’s pitched as a VR and gaming set and not audiophile…horses for courses as they say 
I justed checked the mic… let’s say I was surprised…
Microphone A:
http://sndup.net/np5q
Microphone B:
https://sndup.net/p764/
Which sounds better?
0 voters
I will reveal the results later this evening…
EDIT:
Microphone A is CCA C12 and microphone B is VR3000
I’m still wondering whether powering this set with a different source would make a difference. On the iFi Zen Dac V2 these are just phenomenal for me, crisp and clear, but if I hook it to the MT-602, it becomes a bit muddy and V-shaped.
Took these out for shopping today with my BTR3K, and again I found it lacking in some areas compared to the other IEMs I bring outdoors. It’s still smooth, but just lack characteristic. I was tempted to head over to the iFi Zen Dac thread to ask whether sound coming from the zen dac is colored or not.
Seems so, I also always use L size on them.
I think the perceiving of stage and pshycoaccoustics change from ear to ear. With that said, I can’t agree with you. I heard IEMs that have stage for days (ej07, mest, etc). Although, on the more budget level, only dq6 stands out. And there’s always the problem with depth…
Short review of vr3000 after 30~ hours of use
I genuinely don’t care about the sound quality they’re easily the comfiest iems i’ve owned, i have SUPER picky ears and because of it i had to try every eartip on the market and have to try 15+ tips/tip sizes until i get something acceptable with every iem purchase before i can even start listening to them. Small final e on the left medium on the right that came with them and boom I’ve worn them for 8 hours in a day with the only noticeable problem being a small hot-spot that went away unexplainably and hadn’t come back since. These could be using toilet paper as a driver and id still use them for how comfy they are
So I just played some rounds Valorant…
Btw the solution to my questionair is that mic A is the CCA C12 and mic B is the VR3000. I am surprised that 2 out of 7 people voted for the VR3000 to sound better, as to me (personally) it sound clearly worse.
So again:
That being said, I agree with @Morphitsu when he says, it is very comfortable.
EDIT: Full transparency: I just tested the CCA C12 and it had the same problem with playing back sounds to the mic, but far less pronounced… makes me think it may has something to do with my mic setup 
I’ll just leave here my final impressions on Yuan Li as I’m not going to do a full review on them.
TForce Yuan Li is a single DD IEM that kicks in at around 120usd, give it or take, with a strong setup inside a very nice box: A nice 3.5mm cable (mine was faulty, but it’s a nice cable), a good set of tips and an awsome carrying pounch.
I’ve seen multiple times more expensive IEMs coming in worse boxes with worse setups, so credit where it’s due. Touché.
IEM build is very good, full metal, with nice finishings and no sharp spots. Comfort, isolation and fit are also good, but YMMV.
I would describe Yuan Li as a bass boosted neutral or warm balanced. There’s a clear focus on the lower frequencies of the spectrum, bring up the warmth level and note weight. It’s a very relaxed, smooth and easy to listen set.
Sub-bass has some texture on it, it’s a bit loose and lacks some detail, but it’s present and doing it’s job. Far from perfect replay of Hyper - FCKD, but I’ve heard much worse.
Mid-bass, on the other hand, is trying to do everyone’s job: it bleeds, it overflows… it takes over. Now this is where the problem really starts. As everyone knows, I’m a mid-range afficionado, specially around vocals for testing. Frank Sinatra - My Way’s replay is messy, muded and blured on this frequency. It lacks separation, a cut-off, it lacks bite. Kick drums and bass guitar on RHCP - Throw Away Your Television have too much empashys and lack detail - they are too smoothen out.
Well, as always, due to the bleed, the rest of the mid-range is history. They feel slight recessed as proven by Glass, where Hania Rania’s piano just lacks some life and detail on the middle frequency notes. Upper mids thin out and Agnes Obel - The Curse just feels lifeless. The elevation on the pinna gain might affect the more sensible ones, but not me personally.
Treble is actually well done. Not the most sparkly but does the job well, without ever being hot. Snarkly Puppy - What About Me? Cymbals strikes and electric guitars come out as well done. I just wish it had more air to fake some separation.
Regarding technicalities, the star of the show is imaging. Yuan Li packs an incredible imaging paired with an average stage. Detail is average to below average on this price range.
As obvious, I’m not keen into it. I had some Xenns UP vibes, but some bad ones. While Xenns offering has the tech and the amount of drivers to keep up with all the warmth it puts out, Yuan Li is trying it all with a single driver, and the results are obvious.
It does nothing obnoxiously bad on my library, but does nothing right as well, which is a shame for the price. Placed at 120 usd, it has steep competition, while having no fight to offer against Etymotic ER2XR or even Hifiman RE600S V2. Hell, I’d pick KZ’s DQ6 over this set, 8 out of 10 times, and that costs around 30 bucks. There’s always options out there like MD Aria or GS Audio GD3A that are being acclaimed for a good reason, and they fit this price bracket.
In my opinion, if you want this type of signature, the choice is very obvious amonst my gear: Buy Tripowin Mele and let it run circles on it for half the price.
Can’t comment on whether the mic is adequate for real-time multiplayer gaming since I don’t game online, but I regularly need to make international calls every day. My experience with the mic is ok for phone calls (phone jack) as I asked the receiver how the sound quality is every time I switch to a different headset. For the VR3000, whether audio only (Android phone) or video conferencing (iPad), the feedback on my voice from the receiving end is said to be clear with no graininess or volume drop 
There’s no need for me to vouch for the mic quality since I’ve only talked about the sound quality for VR3000 
. But just from a troubleshooting perspective, I’m suspecting if it’s the issue with your source chain / mic setup?
The only inconsistent mic / headset I have is the cable with mic that comes with KZ ZEX. I’ve got inconsistent feedback saying sometimes it’s clear and stable while other times they didn’t hear me talking when I did in fact. Audio check done when wifi is stable. Other mics I use for calls that are fine:
Say…
Does anyone else here wipe/clean off their IEMs after each use with a Towel or so like me, or am I the exception? 
From time to time, but not everyday. But truth is, everyone should 
Same, just as needed and always if I’m putting them away for a while (i.e. out of rotation, prepping for sale, etc).
Not IEMs, not that often, but headphone leather pads every time cos skin is oily af…
