Philips Fidelio X3 & SHP9600

Hmm, you may have a preference for warmer presentation headphones. Few things, Youtube has a lot of bad quality videos it’s not particularly what I would use as a testing ground for sound qualities… all to many times have I used youtube only to get distortion, compression, or alterations and low bit rates. Higher sample rates and lossless music is the better testing ground.

That would be like asking me my opinion on sound demos from youtube like I have seen zeos have… while yes, you can get a somewhat general idea of their sound it definitely isn’t reliable nor fully accurate.

However, I can hear the neutrality and brightness more from the shp9600 while the x2hr I hear the warmth to the lows and mids as well as it’s larger soundstage. The brightness can add in some cases a thinner sound to some songs to the point of sounding potentially hollow which can also effect bad recordings so hard to say. However, I do hear that slightly less full sound from the 9600 as well as using my own T1 out of that in comparison to my x2hr, x3, audeze, and aeons which have the more full representation of sound. It really boils down to the sound signature and actual recording quality though a lot of cases this really isn’t such an issue but it also depends on if you like the brighter sound.

Warmer and darker headphones tend to have a full or rather “rich” sound to them very lush and full bodied and audeze is a good representation of that.

It has more impact causing it to punch a bit harder and the bass isn’t full rounded off so it has a bit of a Planar like slam much like the DT 1990’s have despite being dynamic headphones. However, it’s that sound doesn’t extend very deep unlike the x2hr which can extend deeper into it’s lows and sub bass extensions going from lows to mids top that off with 9600 is brighter while x2hr is warmer so x2hr can appear to be more well bodied and full. I love the x2hr I just wish the bass wasn’t screwed up would be a hell of a lot better.

hmm, It’s hard to say in this case as you don’t have an amp yet. if you are able to hear the differences in sound signature go with the one you feel most comfortable with overall as my opinion in that regard doesn’t particularly matter. However, In terms of placement and bass of competitive gaming the x2hr does lose to the 9600 I can confirm that rather easily though granted the x2hr is the more “fun” headphone with much more padding to it.

I never really use any onboard audio anymore. It always sounds terrible to me… Especially with the ps4 over there having one of the worst sound cards I have seen in a while as it can’t even really properly power around 40 ohms and is weaker than my old laptops motherboard. Also the fact that plugging a headphone into the controller using a wireless signal is going to screw with the sound qualities as anything wireless loses quite a bit especially in terms of clarity.

Personally, I think the shp9600 is a dramatic upgrade in sound qualities over the X2HR the more I have listened to it. If I was really nitpicking with the two the shp9600 could have better extensions on the low to drive deeper though this could give it much more rumble, this I just recently tested though and can become better by using Tubes as when I use my Liquid Platinum the low end improves by quite a good margin, but the issues I have with the x2hr’s weight, heat build up, and low end screwing with the mids and just being muddy is a problem for me… some people are okay with it I am definitely not

Hmm, looking like I will send back x3( I will have reasons posted and my thoughts later when I finish sitting down with it and burning it in ) but keeping the 9600.

Edit: I just sent out an email to Modhouse inquiring about the adapters to see if they could potentially create an adapter for the 9600

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Thanks Falenkor :slight_smile:

Instead of going back and forth between the two, Im going to listen to them both extensively and see how I feel. Im gonna trust your judgement with the gaming, which is what I wanted anyway. I will miss the X2’s fit and pads, but it seems pointless to micro-compare the two when both ultimately sound just fine to me.

Still waiting for the reviews from other places to pour in. Im curious to see what others say

In that regard I would just go with whats more comfortable for you then. X2 still does a good job and is well rounded enough to play competitive it’s just bassy.

Nice, I was actually thinking about doing that too

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Could potentially help having someone else asking about it. I don’t see it as unfeasible since it’s just some 3d print alterations

So the 9600 really sounds bad on PC. Playing Siege, and everything is very muffled. I cant hear the drone for example, I cant hear the sound pinging makes. Sounds like the announcer voiceover sound quiet.

The thing is, I cant afford the $100 CAD DAC/AMP so I guess I’ll have to make a decision one way or the other. Im try to use EQs but Im unsure what presets to use (using the one provided by Windows). I dont think I can get used to how muffled this sounds.

I want to assume this isn’t just how the audio is and its just my PC being lame, but it seems difficult to figure out the real issue.

I used this setting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ymnbd6Lg7CM

And it actually sounds better! Can anyone recommend me something like this to test out? Sorry for all the questions guys!

There is nothing more I can say outside of what I have already mentioned. Your not going to get the appropriate sound from a headphone that you don’t have enough power to drive and there is no way around that. No form of equalization or software is going to remedy this. If anything an equalizer is going to cause additional issues and equalization generally requires some preamplification to keep the sound balanced out more preventing muffling and distorting. PEACE APO is potentially your best bet as a free to use equalizer

If x2hr is working fine for you suggest you go that route for the time being.

To hear someone misinform people that those are the “mids” and not the treble I feel an immediate need to correct that video. What he raised was 1k and up which 1k is your upper mids yes but beyond this is your treble at 2k+ frequencies. This is why I always say that brighter headphones are better for footstep placement as it’s proven granted equalization needs more power to sound correct in all cases and it can completely destroy the sound by causing massive amounts of distortion if you don’t know what your doing with it though in gaming headsets cases they take an extremely low amount of power to drive making equalization more feasible without an amplifier. Well, I suppose less you count audeze mobius / hyperx orbit where they installed 2 amplifiers actually in the headphone cups

Lastly, 7.1 is universally generally garbage for just about any application. It creates an artificial sound environment and while it may help in some cases it can screw with imaging so much that it actually ruins your imaging and causes sound placement errors big time. However, marketing purposes always claim it does such a great job when really… 95% of the time it doesn’t it just sounds cool and the 7.1 sound is actually an easy to implement free software that you can get if you really feel you need it from programs such as Hesuvi or if you want a better quality 7.1 looking into Dolby atmos which is a 1 time purchase for very cheap. Surround sound gaming headphones are generally complete bs and are a way to jack up the price by simply adding this software in some cases the price can be drastic of over $80 even when you can just get a dongle with this software build in for like $20 in a lot of cases for consoles.

Alright so, it’s been around… 50+ hours of burn in time on the X3 going back and forth around the bend here on sound and multiple tracks in my library. Just songs I personally feel comfortable with in the highest quality possible where I can notice differences using Tidal and Amazon Music I try to use FLAC / Lossless as much as possible.

Games used: Escape from tarkov, Counter strike, Valorant, Planetside

Build Quality: So the build quality is actually very nice here. It’s surprisingly lightweight yet feels rather sturdy with it’s frame and leather padwork. The pads are decently soft Memory Foam Velour that after a bit of use seem to hold their shape quite well after a bit of break in though initially this can feel a bit uncomfortable and the headclamp can be slightly harsh depending on head size. They used this special fabric called Kvadrat to supposedly reduce the air pressure however, it is still fabric which makes me concerned about potential rips and tears and the longevity. Regardless the build quality is quite something and I think provided someone handles it well it will last a while. Though due to the materials used it seems that both the fabric and pads love to grab any form of dirt, grime, pet hair, dust, etc and there is no carrying case… I would definitely recommend a specific spot to put these in or getting a case of some sort for them so you don’t feel the need to clean them up if you like to keep your stuff clean and orderly. Rating of Build quality I suppose it could be sturdier but I feel it inspires confidence and looks good I will give that rating a solid 8 out of 10.

Cables: Nothing really in particularly being special here. They included a cable clamp for what I assume is to tighten up the split a bit further. Cable termination is duel sided 3.5mm to single ended 3.5mm and the additional cable is balanced to 2.5mm 3 pole. The cables are a good length of a respectably good length and I don’t find a complaint less you just like shorter cables. They do not feel cheap and seem to settle down pretty easy once stretched out. No real ratings needed here but I suppose you could improve them though I feel they would raise the price more for that so I see this is just fine. However, I do not see a reason for going balanced cabling as you now lose the ability to use v moda and bluetooth dongles. At 30 ohms it really isn’t demanding to begin with so balanced isn’t particularly necessary here.

Comfort: This is a hit or miss. So, the pads feel a bit smaller than the x2hr and the headphone offers quite a bit a headclamp causing them to be snug. For me personally, the clamp and fit of the ear cups was quite close to perfect for me and isolated my ears very well. The pads are a good thickness and hold their shape well I think they did right by the memory foam velour. My only concern is that if someone had even slightly larger or elongated ears than me then these pads probably wouldn’t work as well as my ears are touching the rim of the inside pad. While normally I would write this off as fixable the pads are held on by practically a perfect sized fitting adapter that you would have to fight with to remove to make use of and potentially run the risk of destroying the stock pads as well as the adapter itself. For pretty much $400 even I would expect the ability to be able to actually change our pads at our leisure to be a requirement as the pads don’t always suit a persons preference and it offers more sound variety. Granted other companies do this with the adapters but their are actually alternatives to those pads from companies like Dekoni who work around that. While I don’t find the pads as comfortable as my dekoni or beyers they are still quite nice in terms of quality and I don’t feel they will tear easily they are quite firm and feel like strong fabric was used on them. While this could definitely be improved I will give this a 6 out of 10 but this could be a huge deal breaker for some people.

Soundstage: So, this particular headphone surprised me out of the box in this regard. The soundstaging here sounds just massive and it’s done incredibly well. Like an open concert feel or speaker presentation but it’s on a level beyond my T1 or Tygr potentially going toe to toe with HD800’s soundstage width. This is a huge plus from me and surprised me as I don’t actually think there’s another headphone with such a large stage in this price bracket. Kudos to this and it sounds done right. 10/10 rating from me for making this a rather unique feature in this price point.

Imaging: This took some time. Out of the box this is quite average which was disappointing. It has taken some burn in and a switch of amps to realize this headphone is a little more particular. Upon switching to my asgard + E30 combination it seems that my original idea of just using a ifi xdsd portable amp wasn’t going to cut it. After switching the imaged tightened further and after burning in more it became even better which surprised me. As of current it’s borderline at the same level as my T1 and very respectable. Upon plugging it into my Liquid Platinum + Bifrost 2 while it definitely doesn’t need anywhere near that much power the platinum allowed that sound signature to open up more and I feel the image may have improved ever so slightly further so setup may be more important with this headphone despite the low ohm you want something that can be more accurate capable of keeping the sound tight without brightening things up.

Separation: no real complaints here. I could pick out the difference in my drum strikes and strings. Quite nice honestly

Sound Signature: This is quite different and I will have to seperate this one into sections of frequency. Comparing this to the original x2hr

Lows: As long as you have this properly powered the lows extend very deep with great extension and sub bass the impact could potentially be better but I found it works even better here when attached to tubes and becomes very satisfying. Overall the lows feel rather natural, outside of the impact, and expansive. They have a good fullness to them and don’t sound hollow however I do feel there is some improvement here to be had as it doesn’t sound very warm if anything it sounds closer to neutral compared to it’s predecessor potentially slightly above the flat line. I didn’t encounter any bleeding into the mids, boomyness, or muddyness and the bass sounds rather tight and controlled whereas the x2hr sounds rather loose and sloppy. I think they did quite right in this regard. Unlike the x2hr where the bass appears quite a bit more forward and tends to get in the way the bass here seems to stay in it’s own lane out of the way of the other frequencies like it needs to

Mids: so one of the issues I encountered was in my setup actually. The mids sound closer to neutral but sound close to being actually forward on my asgard. Center stage so to speak. There is a lot of clarity and clean sound in the vocals which shocked me a bit and sounds rather close to my Sennheisers in terms of vocal quality. Very enjoyable but I do wish there was a touch more warmth to be had here. Tube amps(I tested dark voice with stock tubes) seem to remedy the issue I had with the warmth and impact for both lows and mids and really makes this headphone sound quite nice so could be another case like the DT 880 where tubes can really bring this one to life. Liquid platinum just makes the vocals sound gorgeous for me.

Highs: This could be your biggest deal breaker. This headphone is bright and quite so. If you have a treble intolerance this headphone I have to say isn’t for you. The treble doesn’t sound very peaky but there does seem to be a peak in there somewhere( I don’t have the hardware needed for a frequency chart so that will have to wait till someone gets one) it’s smooth but can spike a bit and cause some harshness. The highs make this headphone sparkle by quite a bit and add a lot of detail across the board the detail retrieval is very nice due to the sound signature. This headphone’s brightness sounds close to equal to my T1 if I want to get a bit more specific. It’s nice but can be very harsh. This is a major hit or miss for me. For me personally, even though I use bright headphones all the time I tried to use this as a more daily driver. I unfortunately grew tired of it after a few hours and picked up one of my other headphones for a break as the brightness can be quite fatiguing.

Sound signature: Unlike the warm presentation of the x2hr this sounds like a major upgrade to the original x2 which was just a bright headphone. This sounds like an absolute massive upgrade to that headphone so if you appreciated the original x2’s you may love this headphone

Competitive Gaming: After the burn in for some time(of course it could be burned in longer) and correction to my setup this headphone is quite superb in this regard. The sound signature is damn near perfect for competitive gaming. I have no issues pinpointing my targets. Granted the brightness caused some discomfort during gunfights in hallways and the like as the more shrieking gunfire sounds reverberate a bit more in games like Tarkov. While this can be rectified through some equalization and I notice my Liquid Platinum can subset this a bit further it’s still something to take note of. The imaging isn’t as sharp as my 1990 or tygr but it can still hold it’s own just fine here.

Casual Gaming: this is alright. I would highly recommend something else for more casual use unless you are okay with brightness and play a few hours at a time. This headphone can be a bit unforgiving like a Beyer so just a forewarning. It will work but not something I recommend here.

Price Point: Considering the pricepoint this is a gamble. After the adjustments this is going quite literally toe to toe with my T1 2nd gen(which prices on that are $600+) which is no easy feat. Of course I expect this headphone to drop in price a bit but I think I can feasibly say it is worth it’s price point though the lacking case, bluetooth / vmoda compatabilities, and pad swap capabilities hurts this headphone alongside the ever sharp brightness it supports. I would probably recommend the DT 880 before I say go to this headphone. Though if your on a tighter budget and still want to experience a headphone thats close to the likes of the 2nd generation of the Beyer T1 I think I can feasibly say this is a good option to do so granted I definitely feel the T1 has a better smoother quality of sound and responds a lot heavier to different setups and scaling sound wise

Will I be keeping this headphone? No, I feel while the soundstage is nice and all and the quality of the sound and sound signature is pretty good for $400 I already own my T1 2nd gen which I bought for essentially close to the same price tag. The biggest difference between the two was definitely the imaging in terms of sound but I like the fact I can swap around my pads on my T1 and the T1 responds much better to amps.

Do I feel it’s worth it? Only if you like bright headphones. The headphone isn’t very aggressive if anything it’s quite laid back with that expansive sound. It’s definitely something I can say is worth a try if you have the money and a return policy. I feel the bass may be the weakest point here as it is just a bright sounding headphone not a V signature or Warm signature so to some this headphone can appear quite boring.

How did it respond to equalization? Decently well, boosting too much of the bass led to some distortion and imbalance. Wouldn’t recommend messing with this on a low powered amplifier though.

But what about the shp9600? Getting to that probably tomorrow. That one is probably a keeper for me.

Do you think either of these two headphones are better for me as a gamer using the Tygr 300 R? Depends, if you are a extremely serious competitive gamer I would even say the DT 880 would be better(it’s cheaper after all with more flexibility and not as bright) but the X3 and 880 can be a hit or miss or quite boring they just aren’t very fun to listen to where the tygr is the better daily driver. You don’t -have- to use a bright headphone it just helps just like you dont -have- to use neutral or recessed bass it just helps stay out of the way for some better placements… as long as your soundstage and imaging are up to par your fine best not to over think it as you may just grab a headphone you don’t like.

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Well, that’s no good at all… the shp9600 cable I got is apparently defective… was listening and about an hour ago started having some weird buzzing through the headphone. Replaced the cable with the V-moda cable and it is no longer an issue.

I guess just a headsup, since it is after all a new product, keep an eye out for defects. Going to contact philips on that one let them know about the cable.

So Falenkor, I think Im going to return the 9600s. They just dont feel right to me.

Maybe Ill try the 9500s but Im worried about making too many returns.

Stepping outside Philips for a second, do you think the DT 770 Pro 32 Ohms or the AD500x are worthier? I feel like AD500x looks fragile but I hear its the best at its price for imaging.

And I hear good things about Beyer, but that’s mostly for their 990s.

Im eager to hear your thoughts on the gaming side for 9600 though.

hmm, I wouldn’t worry too much in this regard. Trying audio equipment is pretty common to my knowledge though returns to a large degree can be rather frowned upon depends on the company. Perhaps look into some sort of audio store if one exists nearby to test some audio equipment out. Granted they are hard to come by these days. Granted 9500 are the same power demand as the 9600

Sounds good, in the end regardless what myself or anybody says you have your own tastes in sound and setup so perhaps it’s just not the best fit for you.

AD500x is decent it’s price tag tends to be very low as well as the ad700x. I have had a lot of people disagree with me on my thoughts about the ad series but personally I find the build quality insufferably bad made of cheap rickety plastic it doesn’t inspire confidence for me and the 3d headband wing system is by far the most uncomfortable design I think I have messed with though I do know others that feel the opposite that it’s fine as a good budget option and comfortable for them personally. The sound signature gets brighter the further you travel through the ad series. However, the signature can be very boring if you like your bass. The bass of the ad series is very recessed with mids and highs pushed forward while this is technically very -ideal- the lack of bass can be a huge deal breaker for a gamer. However, best in price for imaging? It’s around $80 and the shp9500 can be bought around $49 so no but still both are respectable enough for use case scenario in competitives.

DT 770 32 ohm sounds pretty bad in my opinion. You also will probably have issues driving it since you sound like you had issues with the philips which are in the same power demand category. You can give this a shot if you feel like it it’s alternative is the mmx300 which is essentialy the same headphone but gamer based easier to use and has a mic but much more pricey. DT 770’s are quite bright and can be quite sibilant at the same time they are very bassy and rumble loaded the bass is nice but it definitely impedes sound placements of competitive. Fun to use not the most ideal.

Surprised it’s mostly for the 990 of all things. 990 is the sharpest of the 3 and a big hit or miss… similar in signature to the 770s but to a higher degree of brightness. All 3 of those beyers tend to sound pretty bad in their low ohm variations… 770 is a bit of a special case as it sounds decent enough at 80 ohms but the other two sound pretty bad less in 250 ohm or 600 ohm.

In the long run it depends on the person however, like I said lacking bass can be deemed boring but it helps in competitive much like brightness can cause fatigue or discomfort even some rare cases pain yet it does help with the placements for competitive gaming though this creates conflict for other use case scenarios outside of strictly competition.

DT 880 is probably the best of the 3 for regular daily driver use as it has the least brightness and most neutrality though similar in signature to that of the SHP9500 just to a much higher quality degree. The beyers are not only amp dependent but the bass itself can sound rather hollow on them.

Since you liked the bass of the x2hr but still want competitive the Tygr 300R may be more up your alley instead. It’s not a bright headphone instead it’s warm yet not very demanding of power with laser imaging and very large soundstaging.

I am getting around to it. Take a bit of a listen and compiling my thoughts as I compare it also to the 9500

Alright, so while the time I had with the burn in and sitting down with the x3 the shp9600 has been on a backburner just casually being burnt in with time on my other system. Needless to say it’s had longer time to burn in than the x3 had during this little review but I think I have a good general idea of this headphone now. As mentioned earlier… I use Flac and lossless as much as possible but I also test gaming use case.

Note: the more I sat and thought about this, comparing the two, the more I grew a bit irritated. Keep in mind that I don’t believe the x3 or 9600 are bad but like anything in this world there can be improvements

Games use: Soma, Far Cry 5, Nier Automata, Escape from Tarkov, Counter Strike, Valorant, Planetside, Halo 3

Headphone compared to SHP9500

Build Quality: The build quality on the shp9600 is rather questionable. It does look better but if you study it a bit it’s a ever so slightly changed alternative to the original shp9500 there really isn’t much in terms of difference here… It does look better but I wouldn’t say build quality wise it feels better in fact they feel pretty much the same. The pads and band strap are the same as well as the cable that comes with it. Clamp force has been improved but not enough in my opinion and could possibly loosen up with time all considering… there just isn’t ample enough clamp to keep me properly invested once again… it quite seriously seems like Philips doesn’t pay attention to the big complaints on their gear as the clamping force was a consistent issue for a lot of people. Build wise it just looks nice but it doesn’t inspire a lot of confidence at it’s price point considering it’s damn near the same as the 9500 is. though I give it props for looking that much better it’s much nicer in my opinion.

Cables: These are quite literally the same cables as the 9500 except now the silver connector has 9600 written on it. Same length same material and the more I look the more I question how does philips justify this price point considering both the build and cables are essentially the same. Surely they couldn’t possibly expect 3 times the price point of the 9500 for just a slight retune, prettier aesthetic, and some slightly better clamp could they? So the cables still terminate at 3.5mm to 3.5mm detachable same long lengths between one another

Soundstage: I really can’t tell much of a difference here the staging sounds so incredibly similar it could very well be the exact same size as the 9500.I picked up the x3 and x2hr and they are definitely still larger than this I am left wondering how they figure to advertise “spacious sound” on the shp9600 box if it’s the same headphone in this regard as the 9500? Size and width wise it’s still relatively large but in this price bracket there’s still quite a bit bigger

Imaging: the imaging seems to be slightly sharper but this could also be a placebo effect. While the shp series doesn’t have real image issues they aren’t laser accurate and could definitely have improvements. The imaging is fine in most cases for this price point depending on whats available to you

Seperation: no surprise here but it’s on the same level as the 9500… while the seperation is good the imaging and soundstage doesn’t particularly make me think it’s all that grand in this regard either it doesn’t sound differently here than my 9500 at stock.

Pad Swaps: before I get into the sound signature I wanted to address this. The original 9500 can use modhouse adapters to change out the pads. Now, for some unknown and very stupid reason the 9600 cannot make use of this due to the fact the clips are now inverted… it’s as though philips saw people using the adapters and flipped everyone off with this subtle yet extremely annoying change. This change absolutely destroys a lot of worth I see in this headphone as I am sorry but the pads aren’t anything special, they are sub par velour that feel rather grainy just like the headband. The 9500 you can change the pads as you can just also pop off the headband’s padding and change it out… you can still change the headband on the 9600 but you just can’t change their pads less you fight with the adapters. If there was actual proper adapters for purchase or alternative pads, which is extremely common for the 9500 to use different pads, I wouldn’t say anything. This dramatically changes my perspective on the 9600 and makes me think that philips truly just pays no attention to the issues with their equipment. The adapters can of course still be removed by themselves but I think they may have used even more adhesive this time around and the adapters themselves have a form fitting factor this time around so it has to be very particular or it won’t fit. Granted we can still tape the hell out of the modhouse 9500 adapters to it but it may not seal properly giving an off sound.

Sound Signature: hit or miss but better than 9500 more refined.

Bass: One of the things one will notice when getting to the shp9600 from the 9500 is the difference in bass is rather drastic… there is a lot more impact, more rumble, more quantity, the headphone definitely no longer sounds so boring. While the bass doesn’t extend very deep the bass can still be found very satisfying it can be compared to placing a thicker pad fabric on the shp9500. Rather quick, detailed, and punchy I think this is definitely an improvement over the bass of the 9500 however, the question I have is that is this just the extent from the change in clamp force or really a different in tuning? I sat with the 9500 and pushed them harder to my ears and I heard what appears to be a very similar result so I am concerned here that it’s primarily the clamp in this regard doing this if so upon further use that clamp force may deteoriate and the headphone will be essentially another 9500. Take this as you will as the bass is extremely enjoyable… I do feel it has been retuned as the quality overall here has been improved the correct word would be refined.

Mids: Clean, clear, the added punch seems to push some vocality slightly back but nothing too severe. No complaints but the mids sound to be on the same level as the 9500 and if anything slightly cleaner. Again, I feel this may suffer a bit from slight boredom due to lack of warmth however, outside of the potential of using a tube amp I can’t currently see a way to help this one. Good tube amps are expensive if you feel you want that more engaging rich warm sound from an shp it’s better to stay the 9500 until you can change the pads on the 9600 at the very least as a swap to a thicker pad can add more warmth and a deeper tone to the sound on both headphones.

Highs: smoother, there appears to be more detail across the frequencies but not by a whole lot, the highs don’t appear grainy or sharp just raised and satisfying. The added bass I noticed makes the treble appear not as bright but upon further look it appears to be on the same level as a 9500. The sound changes are very positive here and I really appreciate them.

Sound Signature is a subtle V signature while the 9500 is straight up a bright signature

Competitive Gaming: Pretty sure I have had quite the few questions on this one even to my inbox so let’s get to this one. The added bass is quite nice, adding immersion, and a sense of more fun to your sound. There wasn’t a lot of rumble added to the sound experience so while using this it just felt like a slight change to the 9500 while competitive gaming. While this is fine, I would recommend the shp9500 for someone just looking for a cheap entry level for competitive gaming this is because they are damn near the same headphone and the shp9600 is 3 times more expensive for little reasoning

Casual Gaming: quite nice and relaxing. I like the changes done to the sound signature. The clamp force keeps it on my head. No real complaints here well rounded and enjoyable. Soma scared the hell out of me while playing with this. The added impact and bass I felt brought this game alive much more… as well as games like far cry and other rpgs… I feel the 9600 is just more engaging and exciting.

Price Point: Currently the price tag is at $130 plus shipping, unless you have amazon prime or something, as well as taxes. The Total comes out to $139.09 after tax not including any shipping costs… this can potentially place the headphone at $150 or slightly higher if you have to pay for shipment fees. You can find Shp9500 for practically right at $50 and they are virtually the exact same headphone with what I can only say is really just a Retune in sound with a bit more clamp everything else is practically the same but for 3x more. The pads are currently unswappable outside of tearing into the adapters, no carrying case, no big differences, the same cheap material used as the 9500, no offense but this is rather embaressing to see especially considering just how drastically different the x3 is from the x2hr in terms of build quality and quality material used. I say this is a toss up depending on how much you see is worth it to you personally.

Will I be keeping this headphone? Debatable but the more I sat with it the more I realized probably not. I own multiple headphones including Subtle V signatures. I already own the shp9500 and the pads I have on it creative borderline the same sound signature yet for much cheaper. The cost to modify a shp9500 to the degree I have done lets see. SHP9500($50), V moda($30), Dekoni beyerdynamic Suedes($40), Modhouse adapters($10) or rather $130 plus tax may as well call it closer to $140 essentially the exact same price as the stock 9600 your going to end up spending more than $200 to fully modify this headphone if you wanted the same result and keep in mind I didn’t include the like $20 extra custom fabric I used to change my 9500 headband piece as that grainy velour was bugging the hell out of me. The 9600 is not worth more than a Beyerdynamic DT series headphone or post $200 headphones I will give it the benefit of saying maybe $200 max is the worth… so unless you appreciate it in stock I can’t say I see the 9600 as a worthy keeper. Stocks alright, just as I thought about it… not for me.

How did it response to equalization? Bout the same as a shp9500 so quite well honestly… Though why you would feel the need to equalize it is beyond me the sound is tuned to what I would call just right not boring yet smooth and good detail… it’s good for what it is in stock. The headphone is the same power demand as the 9500 so you don’t need a lot of power backing it at all… a cheapo Syba Sonic amp/dac can bring this thing up to speed honestly.

Do you think this is better than the Tygr 300R for gaming? 100% No, Absolutely not. The tygrs have more detail in their sound, better clamp, more comfort, the ability to change their pads easily, higher build material, more soundstage, laser imaging. The two have a different signature. Tygr is a warm headphone with similar bass to the 9600 however the 9600 has more brightness. You can brighten up the Tygr by use of certain amps and some equalization it’s just a little picky honestly. SHP9600 responds better to equalizers and different amp setups. However, Tygr is more expensive and a bit misleading for gamers… In reality it’s more than $200 as it’s a headphone so it does not have a mic.

Should I buy the 9500 or 9600? Honestly, I would wait it out. I see a potential hard price drop on both the 9600 as well as the x3 as more people get to them and time causes depreciation. The headphone SHP9600 don’t hold their own against their competition appropriately, as you can even get a dt 880 for around $125 at 250 ohms. If the price drops hard for the 9600 I see this being more worth while but not at it’s current price point. Otherwise I still think the shp9500 is a fantastic item out of the gate… the only issue is like I mentioned earlier modifications add up fast. However, I actually prefer my SHP9500 modified usually more than my dt 880 despite the differences. I would tell someone to grab the 9500 before I say the 9600 though I would only say grab the 9600 if you prefer the stock as outside of that the price point to me just isn’t quite worth it. If price wasn’t a factor and you wanted a subtle V yeah I could see it being more worthwhile but theres the current pad issue in the way causing me to just say wait this one out.

This was a toss up for me the more I sat and thought on this and considering the fact that shp9500 is one hell of a budget headphone… This doesn’t feel like an ample upgrade… it just seems like a slight upgrade but more of a sidegrade… while they improved things other areas they took steps backwards. The build quality, the cables, the soundstage, the imaging, the pads, the lack of a case all of which went without approperiate improvements that really should have been better addressed. It just looks prettier with more clamp force and a better sound quality.

Sale wise, I assume the headphones will land on a christmas sale… if you want them… Suggest you wait till then.

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Honeymoon phases don’t particularly get to me when I have so many other headphones that I love and appreciate in house at the same time. When I review something I try to be as fair as possible and look at all alternatives… Not everyone has an unlimited budget and we want a great sound as much as possible… better sound per dollar is always appreciate.

I suppose the shp9600 could be a great starter headphone for someone just wanting a good early entry point into open back V signatures as the headphone does strike a good balance in that sound signature regard not lacking dynamically but not overly sharp and bassy. If you can appreciate the signature of a shp9600 you will probably love the DT 990, Emu Teak potentially, and most definitely you would find a lot of appreciate in a Dan Clark Aeon

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Im assuming the hd58x still pulls ahead of the shp9600

For me personally no

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I wouldn’t say it does no. Good neutral jack of all trades headphone but wouldn’t say it’s an upgrade just a solid alternative

58x jubilee has good imaging and a relatively average sized soundstage with good bass and sub bass extensions and impact. It really doesn’t have a big downside but at the same time, it doesn’t particularly excel in any particular area in my opinion. At it’s core it’s a fantastic daily driver, which my experience with sennheisers is just kind of how they tend to be. 58x jubilee is quite something even amongst the gaming community but in terms of pulling ahead of shp9500 or 9600? No, the increase in sound quality I think is quite nice and once modified the shp9500 can stand above the 58x jubilee in some cases including soundstage but also versatility of sound they are essentially what I would call side grades

If you want me to get super technical… The shp9500 and 58x jubilee can go neck and neck even in competitive gaming however, the shp9500 has an edge in gaming as while it’s still also relatively neutral it has the bigger soundstage and brightness to back it up giving it what sounds to be more details however in terms of vocality I think sennheiser wins that in terms of flexibility and accessories you can use to modify the headphone that definitely goes to the shp9500.

9600 is a slight upgrade to the 9500 everything sounds more refined, more smooth, with more detail to it despite the other characteristics being relatively the same.

The next step up from a Shp9500 would potentially be the AKG K612 or rather better yet the K702 as this added the detachable cable and slight more refinement. While some may think this is a crazy comparison because recessed bass you can modify the bass on the AKG k702 and bring it up rather drastically through 1 of 4 options. 1 is direct modifications which takes some google searches, 2 is a change in pads one of which is of course the yaxi pads made for the headphone which are quite lovely and very comfortable causing the bass to be on the same level as the 9600 potentially more(the k7 series also uses plastic adapters on it’s pads so you have to be particular on what you buy), 3 equalization of course, and 4 one of the more rare cases which requires some study is the Kameleon amp(and potential alternatives) from DIYheaven which can immediately bring the bass to the flat line instead of being recessed this allows it to be on par with the shp9500 signature and further adjustment makes it a better option alternative to the 9600.

The thing about AKG though is that they have really stupid prices… technically a K702 if you look them up you will probably turn away saying well that’s too expensive. as out the gate they are priced stupidly at $300+ when in reality if you dig around more… you can actually find K702 at around $150 - $200. You can get an adapter, the same one I linked to over on the DT 1990 forum here, that allows conversion of the 3 pin mini xlr to a 3.5mm jack this gives it the same flexibility of the shp9500 as this allows access to v -moda but also the bluetooth dongle.

In comparison to the shp9500, 9600, and 58x jubilee the k702 has an absolute massive soundstage(granted x3 over there is astonishingly larger just ridiculous in size on that one) and suffers from ever so slight imaging issues but it still has better imaging than both the shp and 58x.

In this regard if one asked me what the step up would be, while a bit complex, would be the k702 for a gamer but only if they were okay with taking the extra steps… otherwise if they still want that flexibility in sound I would just tell them shp9500 and modify it or ya know tygr is always an option as well as 58x jubilee due to it’s neutrality

Muscality though, well shp9500 is nice I like it more for orchestra… I definitely think 9600 is better for EDM and other games that can use brightness and bass more… 58x jubilee is great for more vocal lovers but it can appear quite boring due to neutrality, k702 is mids and highs forward so vocality and orchestra sing quite well there.

With the customizable sound going best to 9500 and k702 respectively(granted if I recall correctly 58x jubilee has some adapters as well but it doesn’t change sound as drastically as a 9500)

The other step up to the actual SHp9600 if you want that signature but on practically Steroids… DT 990 at 600 ohms. Post modifications you can get the k702 done right around the $200 range maybe slightly higher… and the 990 is also in the $200 range… this is another reason I say I don’t believe the 9600 is worth more than post $200

Direct upgrades in sound from the shp9500 would probably be something like Shp9500 -> X2 fidelio -> DT 880 -> Sundara -> X3 Fidelio -> 1990 / T1 -> (maximum) HD800S

I think the honeymoon phase has worn off now and after listening to my playlist a bunch of times, comparing them to my other 2 headphones, I’m starting to see the real worth of the 9600.

Soundwise I still think they’re very good but in that $100-$200 price range there are better options to consider like the dt880 black se. What @Falenkor has written up I pretty much agree with so instead of writing up my own review I’m just gonna do a couple of quick comparison between the 9500 and the dt880 black se.

VS. 9500:
One thing I noticed about the 9600 is that because of the bass boost the 9600 loses a bit of midrange details and air. Sometimes the 9600 feels a bit closed in like if it was a closed back headphone. You can pad swap the 9500 with something like the ZMF Universe Hybrids (my pad of choice) or Dekoni Beyer Suedes and get practically the same sound signature but not lose the details and air and also increase the soundstage. Yes, to get there you’ll have to buy some extra stuff but the total amount you’ll be spending for the 9500, pads, and adapters will be about the same as buying just the 9600.

Verdict:
The 9500 win in my opinion because of its better price to performance and versatility.

DT880 Black SE 250ohm:
This version of the dt880 specifically has a v shaped sound signature similar to the 9600. 880 dig deeper in the bass and is a bit tighter. Quantity is about the same. As far as the rest of the frequency response the 880 is more refined and more resolving. It’s airier and has a bigger soundstage and has slightly better separation. The 880 is the true upgrade to the 9500 and I believe is an overall better sounding headphone than the 9600.

Verdict: 880 if you couldn’t already tell. More rigid build and softer materials used.

So at the 9600 current price I no longer think they’re worth it. The only way they would’ve gotten away with that price is if it came with a hard-shell carrying case and an extra shorter cable.

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I keep forgetting about this particular headphone considering it’s the oddball of the beyers.

Think our thoughts on this are practically the same so definitely agreed.

My only complaint in comparison is that unlike the shp though the DT 880 over there actually sounds a bit more hollow… it’s not very full sounding. Sure the Black variation does add bass and it’s not particularly as bad but beyers definitely aren’t wonderful warm rich headphones with full low end(well… tygrs exist but special exception). I think if you prefer a more full sounding frequency and low end the shp could be a better choice but only in that 1 regard everything else the DT 880 can potentially do better. That hollow sound really comes to light if you change the DT 880’s pads.

I fully believe it will drop in price… and we definitely could use some new adapters for it from Modhouse. X3 on the other hand is rather impressive so I will give philips that one

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