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Remember that Intel is on 14nm++++++++++++ so it’s a highly refined process. Also keep in mind that lithography size hasn’t meant anything real for years. It just more marketing. AMD 7nm is the same generation as Intel’s 10nm from what I understand. The other thing is that they are still developing new technologies such as euv and beyond. I’m not sure what the limit is for silicon. There has also been talk of using graphene for transistors though I think if this happens it will be a long time in the future. Both Samsung and tsmc have a 3nm node in their roadmaps

Edit: just found a reference (on Wikipedia so take that for what you will) that Intel says they are going to produce a 1.4nm node in 2029…that sounds like a totally made up timeframe at this point in time, but cool nonetheless



CPU: 8086K binned and delidded by Silicon Lottery. 5.0GHz @ 1.25V

Motherboard: Z390 Aorus Master. I disassembled the heat sinks and replaced the original thermal pads with T-Global TG994 13W/mK thermal pads.

Memory: 32GB G.SKILL 3600MHz. I went with a four stick kit due to the Aorus Master implementing a T-Topology layout.

GPU: 2080 Ti Founder’s Edition with EK water block. I used the TG994 here as well instead of using the included thermal pads. 2100MHz Core, 8000MHz Memory

Cooling: Dual EK DDC pumps, Hardware Labs Nemesis 480GTX radiator, EK Vardar fans, CPU and GPU blocks.

Audio: Mod House Argon Mk3 headphones, THX AAA 789 amplifier, Geshelli Labs Enog2 Pro DAC, Kanto YU2 speakers

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Memory is a totally different ballgame, since error correction doesn’t need to be done in a fraction of a millisecond. Once you approach 1nm the interactions between atoms start to overwhelm your ability to control electrons between them. I don’t believe Intel for 1 second, it’ll be one of those “Weeell technically it’s 1.4nm.”

That is not entirely correct.

Excavator has two 128-bit floating point units, those can either operate as one 256-bit or as individual ones.
That setup was not used to AMDs advantage in the beginning, but is why the FX 8350 overtook the i5’s (which reviewers claimed to be more “future proof”).

It was the best to overclock :wink:

AMD Zen scales like crazy though. Intel is playing catchup now.
The IPC gain from Zen to Zen2 (Ryzen 1000 series to Ryzen 3000 series) are INSANE compared to Intels drip-feed.

Intel claims that their 10nm is on par with TSMC 7nm (what AMD uses for Zen2). Thing is, Intel 10nm has yield problems so big, it does only ship mobile (= notebook) processors.
Intel 7nm looks like another dumpster fire (as was 3D-xPoint aka Optane).

It is not even clear if Silicon as a semiconductor can do 3nm, might have to look at Germanium (expensive AF) or photonic transistors.

The point I was making is the distance between transistors in 7nm process is not 7nm…it’s more like 50something…(at Least as I understand it) The name 7nm is marketing was the point I was making.

Also 3d x point and optane is really cool stuff. Have you seen the performance of the 905p sad? Sure it costs your first born son to buy but it’s really really cool tech…

I know. Local superheating of cells to “refresh” their life cycle is amazing!
It is not however that much better than the various flash technologies, most gains are the HUGE over provisioning and the controller.

Also the incrediblely consistent and high tier performance over the entire drive writes/reads and the insane petabytes written endurance…

Anyone here got experience with the Supermicro GS50 case?


Fan support, HDD bays and overall aesthetics are looking good (we are talking SuperMicro after all). I am thinking about moving my PC to this case and am looking for personal opinions/reviews from owners.

i dont own it, but my worry is airflow unles you remove most of the hdd trays…i have the phanteks enthoo pro m and i really like it…similar layout, but also has a psu shroud at the bottom. how much is taht supermicro?

edit: mine is the tempered glass version

http://phanteks.com/Enthoo-Pro-M-TemperedGlass.html

Without PSU, ~130
With 750W Gold, Modular PSU, ~220

Supermicro only builds Servers and some workstations, I would assume airflow is fine even with all drive bays populated.

Yeah from the looks of it airflow should be no problem (probably alot better than the tempered glass cases floating around lol)

There is not anything that strikes me bad about that case, nothing I see that would be a concern to me

servers usually go into some kind of rack mount with insanely loud fans…personally i like to choose my own psu, but if the included one is highly rated and 90$ is cheaper than you can get a similar or better model, could be worth it. how many of those hdds you planning to use?

Edit: i know phateks offers additional bays and stuff for cost added, but obviously thats not ideal

also this phanteks was kinda build for watercooling, which I’m not even taking advantage of lol. if i ever choose to, it would be a new build, i would move all this build into another case first

SuperMicro either uses SeaSonic or DeltaElectronics PSUs. To my knowledge the PSU included in this case is a standard version of the SeaSonic Focus, so a super high quality unit I would buy anyway.

All except for 2 of the 2.5" bays.

oh well in that case you kinda need that many bays lol…yeah the seasonic focus golds are pretty good. why so many hard drives? what specs are you looking for in your case specifically?

You can never have too much storage space

My current situation is suboptimal at best.
I got 1 M.2 for Windows boot, a 2.5" SSD for Linux boot.
I also got one HDD for programms and two HDDs for storage.

I would like a Raid1 for internal backup and another HDD for programms.
And I got a hot-swap bay to create external backups.


  • ATX
  • 2x 5.25" bays
  • 4x (or more) 3.5" bays
  • 2x (or more) 2.5" bays
  • 2x USB3 ports in the front
  • front facing powerbutton (else my cat will shut down my PC)
  • Easily cleanable dust filter in front and top (cat hair)
  • no RGB
  • no PSU shroud
  • (no window)

lol that depends on what you do :stuck_out_tongue: my mother-in-law whose computer is basically chrome machine plus excel doesnt need more that 1tb…i have a 2tb nvme drive just for video games because i have too many…i know guys who have 3 14tb hdds full with video content…

I’m at 50tb of nvme with 50 tb spinning for redundancy for my mainly music server lol (but of course the servers are used for other purposes lol)

And hopefully a 10Gbit network

Of course lol, I love cisco switches lol

Also I had the opportunity to buy up a fiber setup but I wasn’t about to spend money on that lol