You know whats funny. Linus does the cou fan on top thing because he believes should pull hot air out and the psu can take the extra temps.
Imho maybe it can take the temps but the psu is the most important part of a build imho and i want it to get fresh air. Also some shrouds and such now block the upside down theory.
I remember when pcs were all big ribbon cables that had to be put on and chained correctly and cable management was just making sure it didnt hit the cpu fan. Things change and airflow is more important.
Reason to why to have the psu fan inside the case is often also carpet etc. (also low clearance of case too)
If you cannot get air in there you take air out of the case. Simple enough.
Just saw Z’s review on this… I’m actually angry this product exists… I thought the ASR people were my least favorite hi-fiers but I believe now A16 Realizer users are now my least favorite. WTF would make you want this product and WTF would you spend $4k on it?
I’m all about tube rolling, op amp rolling, using a parametric EQ to tweak headphones. But this thing this thing should have been aborted at conception.
Cables do not affect airflow unless they stall the fan blades. LTT video on topic
How does PSU orientation matter?
Unless you choke it for airflow and it goes into OTP, there is nothing that happens.
Depends on the case. In my PC, the PSU (sitting at the bottom) gets the same intake air as the GPU.
In my moms computer, the PSU has to move warm air out of the machine.
PC cases peaked in the year the Corsair HAF-X (~2010) or Silverstone Raven 02 (~2012, I think).
Cases had front intake, side intake fans to keep the GPUs cool, expansion slots, some even hot-swap bays for HDDs. Acryl was only in the side panel. There was no stupid 255^3 RGB colors. Some things had switches to select from 7 colors!
Most importantly, every company tried to make their metal box different. Some had plastic fronts, others had doors, carrying handles, front I/O on the top, behind a cover.
Then someone made the conclusion there is a limited number of ways to build a metal box that holds hardware. And in order to keep some of those options for the next generation, there is now ONE box with ONE name.
Do you have any idea how sick I am trying to distinguish all the H500’s? Every company has an H500. All of them have the same problem: FUCKING GLASS IN FRONT OF A FAN!
Intel, Nvidia and AMD hardware scales clocks significantly with temperature. As soon as Nvidia GPUs hit 60°C they start reducing clocks., Zen CPUs stop boosting single core speeds and Intel’s Mayonaise™ could not keep up to begin with. Your tEmPeReD gLaS front costs you FPS FFS!
And don’t get me started on “It is all black with RGB, make your own design.” I PAY for the product so I do not have to DIY everything!
To continue the “every box is the same”: Ever tried finding a front I/O, 2x 5.25" bay, >6x 3.5" bay case?
There are a handful of them! What the fuck happened?
Oh you want to rant about cases? NZXT explicitly designs their cases so other AIOs won’t mount correctly, or at least they got incredibly lucky and only theirs do. You can kinda get a corsair one to fit upside down but it’ll take a more patient person than me to get the screws in.
I shouldn’t complain though, you only need to get 4 of them in, the other two don’t come close to lining up anyway.
You’re right about tempered glass. I just put up a fine mesh with magnetic tape. You can’t get positive air pressure with an AIO on the front panel anyway.
I know the struggle, I’ve been researching cases for ages for my next build for ages. I want to replace my FT05, but I literally can’t find anything nearly as good. It’s all glass RGB “leet gamer” rubbish.
Not like I can make a build right now anyway with the new stuff being scalped to oblivion…
Omfg, this is exactly that I can share the same pain when it comes to some of the PC cases, like why the hell would you do that to your case? Sure there are some cases with that glass front panel setups being done well with the airflow still optimal, but I would prefer just a simple mesh front.
It’s much cheaper by making any headphone in to immersive audio surround thingy with headphones? With corrections and tons of settings. What i think it was…, maybe?
Does much more than “just tube rolling, op amp rolling, using a parametric EQ to tweak headphones”.
For those into headphones.
When going it with reference speakers and doing the full run, it’s really in another level.
Well cases started to move towards water cooling with the thought that rads restricted flow anyway so why care about air. They were pretty wrong, obviously.
Optical drive bays also went away because, well, the much lessened use of them. I have a bluray in mine i never used over the past 6 years. My old pc only uses the dvd drive to burn cds on rare occasion. Phanteks used to have an addon so you can mount an optical drive in the back.
I do and do not disagree with the same metal box thing. I see many manufacturers have a core design and modify that in their product line. Kind of like how cars are today phateks evolv x is the same inside as the p600s, which is modified for the 500, and trimmed down for the 400. Lian li has the o-11 line etc etc. A lot more emphasis has been put into buildability in a case and cable routing and yes rgb than before, some at rhe sacrifice of drive bays and the such. I honestly really like the phanteks line for balancing aesthetics and function and will be using the p600s for my next build.
True, especially Noctua and be quiet. Though there are use cases where the heat capacity of of the radiators can be useful, but they only last about 5 years so it’s cheaper to do a full loop in the long run.
When referring to water cooling i should clarify as well… I mean custom loop pcs. Shows and such started to really emphasize those type of builds about the same time cases stopped emphasizing airflow. Aio are imho not worth it.
The only thing i dont like about a big air cooler is the weight hanging off a mobo.