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Do you need an extension cable like that? Because I dont know much about those cables.

In fact just a cable to connect my laptop to the Tone2 Pro – so a usb type c to usb type c (maybe usb c 3.1). The cable that came is fine but white. Just looking for something to make it look nicer. lol

Maybe xinhs can do that…

When it comes to USB cables, they either work or they dont. Which is why you can literally get any one of them, the question is if the build quality is good though.

Something like this maybe:

Or as you mentioned, I would ask XINHS if he can make you one.

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Thanks! This one looks nice!

I’ll ask xinhs if he’s able to do that – maybe a 0.5m GoldenFall with usb c to usb c terminations.

You can also try asking Ghentaudio if he can make you one as well.

https://www.ghentaudio.com/usb/u03.html

My sources are using his cables, they are SUPER THIIICKK.
(I got these cables: ghentaudio --- A01P Canare L-4E6S Locking RCA (M to M) Cable)

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Thanks for the reference as these seems super nice! I’ll ask if its possible as he doesn’t seem to work with usb c.

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With USB cables, it is important that they got proper shielding against EMI.


https://www.ghentaudio.com/usb/u04.html

Which they got. But yeah, send them a mail and ask them if they can make you one with usb-c.

(FIY: I havent measured them myself, but those cables was recommended to me by Hakuzen himself.)

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Thats the only important technical spec imo.

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Just by the connectors you can see they are nice quality. I’ll send them an email. Thanks for the reference.

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This is mostly correct and for USB 2.0 standards and below 100% correct.

For USB type C there quite a few gotchas, tho most of those will come up and actually do damage on the power delivery side. For data USB C can be wired for usb 2.0 speeds, 3.1 5gb, 3.1 10gb, or not wired for data at all. And some that are wired for data are also wired with pull up resistors for power delivery and non shielded data cables. Basically buy USB C cables from reputable brands because there is a lot of shady stuff and the standard is really poorly managed.

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Yeah, I have heard something like that.

Do you have any rec, @TkSilver?

Honestly Rikudo’s rec looks good if they will do type C connectors. They seem to buy good USB cabling and as long as you are not doing a long run and sticking with 2.0 speeds. Though double sleeving it like it looks like they do will make it kinda thick and less flexible.

Are you just wanting an off the shelf kinda product, just in a different color?
Is is mainly looks, or do you have some specific needs? Like 4pin aviation quick disconnects for cables often inserted and removed. Or a coiled cable for repositioning and generally having a flexible part (or looks).
Also I have been assuming the Tone2 pro only needs USB 2.0 speeds, if it actually needs high speed then don’t go custom since high speed data cables are a lot more annoying to do and most places don’t do them for that and other reasons.

Wow careful there man! I agree with you, but remember how the other cable discussion ended up the other day?! LOL

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Basically, the sentiment is correct data is data. There is no “clean” data. Kinda like how expensive HDMI cables don’t make the 1s or 0s any sharper that they send. (Before anyone brings them up I am not talking about any active image processing HDMI “cables” those are a small microprocessor in a cable form factor)

But Type C cables do have a lot of charlatans on sites like Ali and amazon that sell bad and possibility destructive cables. (All those poor Nintendo Switches that died)

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Its a digital cable lol.

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This is a topic I would love to discuss but am afraid to for obvious reasons. My logic agrees with @Rikudou_Goku . I will admit this goes over my head and I might be talking out of my ass since I am not an expert but a USB cable is only transferring digital data right? Ones or zeros. I’ve read that the issue with differing qualities of USB cables are in noise.

WTF does that even mean?

Does that mean if the quality of the USB cable is poor that some of the accuracy of the digital information is missing or incorrect? I personally only thought noise could come from an analog signal.

When buying my own personal USB cable for my main desktop rig currently running into a Topping D90SE DAC, I went with this…

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00415J7V8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

…because I just wanted something I knew would be a good quality cable to set my mind at ease without going too nuts, but at the same time, I really do not understand how the quality of a digital cable can improve analog sound.

I have never heard ANY difference in sound with different USB cables. I think either it works or it doesn’t. Isn’t that what science should tell us or am I missing something?

http://passionforsound.lachlanfennen.com/massive-usb-comparison-test/

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Yes

Noise is indeed the nr 1 factor for these type of cable. Basically, if you dont have proper shielding, the different wires inside the cable transfering the data can accidentally “leak” into the other wires.
(Crosstalk)

(EMI and RFI can be a pain without proper shielding as well)

Basically, imagine the different wires inside a cable as a road. IF you DO NOT have proper shielding,
a delivery truck (say someones Oriolus Traillii), driving on road 1 can accidentally go into road 2 and then be mixed up with delivery truck nr 2 delivering someones Blon BL-03. You wouldnt want to get the 03 if you ordered the Traillii right? :joy:

Also, if you have a bunch of cables together in close proximity and no proper shielding, well. It be like if your apartment has poor isolation to the point where you can hear your neighbour loud and clear and they can hear you as well.

Yes, it either works or it doesnt basically.

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I agree with all of this, the problem is that we have “audiophile” USB cables for sale for hundreds if not thousands of dollars, and because of that we may end up having the same type of discussion we had the other day about analog cables.

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So is it possible with my level of DAC/AMP and sensitive IEMs, something like the AudioQuest Carbon would probably make more sense? Reading Passion for Sound’s impressions from the upgrade to carbon really has me thinking I probably should have at least the carbon on my rig then.

“Connecting the Carbon USB to my system brought a depth and timbre to my music that I haven’t heard before from my system. It was like going from an average MP3 rip to a beautifully mastered, lossless high-res file – I was instantly addicted. There was more space in the sound, both in the overall size of the soundstage, but also in terms of the space around each instrument / sound. I can only assume that this is a result of the better isolated ground plane allowing every sound to be more accurately rendered by the DAC with no hash / background noise to muddy the end signal.”