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Try the radius tips then, you might like it. It was a bit too much treble for me that way, thats why the elecom ones is the perfect balance for me.

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Thanks man, i will wait for the LZ A6 to arrive and try to EQ it, i always EQ so that may make up for it as long as the drivers have the character i am looking for. As for the Dunu options i would have to first sell my current IEMs since the price difference is so big.
That just comes to show that the OH10s are really good for $200, right? lol

At least they arent redundant.

You wont be able to EQ them to sound the same, their timbre is fundamentally different.

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There’s a couple of open box OH10’s on eBay for about 150 bucks at the mo :+1:

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If you don’t mind a lot of bass, get them.

Definitely S ranked for me. Probably going to demote the fh3 to s- lol.

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What do the OH10’s do different/better than the FH3?

Mids and treble are more coherent with the rest of the sound and timbre is better. Very Sony-like.

Bass is tied though, they are different and it will be up to personal preference.

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I am not actually looking for the same timbre (although i loved the OH10’s), all i want is a good soundstage (better than the FH3’s) and a faster and more controlled bass. If the LZ A6 can deliver that with a bit of EQ to get me the same bass quantity as the OH10s then i am happy, i cannot get those characteristics from either the FH3 or the H40 unfortunately.

Nice man, good to hear you like these. I too think the OH10s are better than the FH3 in just about every aspect (other than comfort)

Exactly this, both have excellent bass but to my ears the OH10 has both more quantity and more control, and that is a killer combination imo.
That plus that beautiful soundstage and the OH10s are my favorite so far.

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The A6 still probably has the biggest soundstage out of all my iems. The super airy treble definitely helps with that.

Speed and tightness might also be the tightest and fastest out of my DD iems (and if it was faster, which would be BA territory, it would be too much so it would sound unnatural).

So you shouldnt have to worry about that. Havent tried EQ on it so dont know how much you can boost the bass. Technically, it should have a similar amount to the OH10/FH3, since it graphs like that. But its just that the speed and tightness are on another level so it ends up sounding like it has less quantity.

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How do you find the OH10 in terms of vocals? Is it more of a side-grade of the FH3?

The difference with the OH10 and the FH3 bass is that they are done differently. The FH3 has a looser bass while the OH10 is tighter, but speed is similar. But depending on the track, sometimes the bass is cleaner on the FH3 (because the OH10 rumbles quite a lot) and sometimes the tighter overall bass is giving the OH10 an edge and makes it cleaner. Texture is on the same level on both and clearly punches above both their price range (around 300 usd territory).

Quality when it comes to the mids and treble are similar, its the tonality and timbre that causes the differences here. While the OH10 has recessed mids, the FH3 is forward. The FH3 has more BA timbre in the mids and treble and that causes it to somewhat be incoherent. The OH10 doesnt have that problem.

Technicalities like imaging, instrument separation and detail seem fairly close, but I get back to it more in my review in due time. Soundstage however is a bit bigger on the OH10, but its not really that much bigger and its probably helped by its V-shaped profile (recessed mids often help with getting a bigger soundstage). I have gotten used to iems with pretty huge soundstages, so anything below that might not impress me that much.

My reason for putting it above the FH3 (at least for now, not finalized) is that I find the mids and treble on the FH3 to be unnatural due to the BA timbre. So its more of a preference thing than just the OH10 just simply being “better”. Its, not, it just comes closer to my own preference than the FH3 does.

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That sounds like exactly what i am looking for, when i EQ the FH3’s bass up a bit it starts to get boomy, and that does not happen with the OH10. I am thinking this fast and tight bass will allow me to EQ it up and get the type of bass i like.
I got it without express delivery so it will probably take another 2 weeks to arrive, i will let you know once i get them.

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Im not really sure what the criteria is for an iem to be able to handle a lot of bass EQ.

Some other iems that have very tight and fast bass do not respond well to EQ at all. While some others do…

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Agreed, OH10 takes bass boost like a champ. FH3 not so much.

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alright, I took out the A6 and yeah. The soundstage is in multiple leagues ahead of the OH10 lol.

I also tried to EQ it with a low-shelf boost from 80hz with 3db. It doesnt really respond well to it.

Oh no… That is bad news for me :frowning:

Damn…now I must also buy OH10 :joy:

Depending on what you have, I would say it is wiser to save up for something higher up honestly.

Dunu EST112 and perhaps the upcoming Thieaudio Excalibur might be something to go for instead of being stuck in mid-fi hell.

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