Schiit Bifrost 2

That assumes they have notice in advance of delays. I agree they could send out notifications to those who have purchased and are waiting for shipping. I will email them again and ask them to do so. enough people email and they will change policy. this is something new for them and i just think they do not have the system set up in place to deal with delays. i don’t think they have ever had a delayed product before like this.

And I am sorry if i ruffled feathers, not my intent :slightly_smiling_face:

Just trying to explain out manufacturing a little. To each their own, and to all be well :+1:

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That is strange that a musical dac would cause the thx to he harsher than it already is. You’d think it would help bring some musicality back to the thx.

Moral of the story, THX is overhyped garbage.

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I mean… That is one way to look at it. The THX I just was designed with sigma delta DACs in mind.

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Tend to agree with Hazi here. Can’t see THX would sound more harsh than on a delta sigma. Presumably you tested using the same songs throughout?

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Well, I wouldn’t say it’s garbage. Consider the effect the modius had on my RNHP, it sounded thin and weak. Does that mean that amp is garbage?

Equipment requires synergy, and sound is highly subjective.

If that’s what you consider trash I’m about to go rummage through your trash cans haha

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I consider all THX garbage…just a personal opinion…most overhyped thing in the hobby for the past 2 years now. The etched harsh treble of THX is undeniable.

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That comment has me curious considering the price differences in that area… Since I am someone who uses Beyerdynamics more often than not it has me rather curious if this Dac would be better than the Bifrost. Using the Liquid Platinum paired to a Balanced T1 right now.

I feel DAC/amp pairing maybe some synergy that maybe most important. I can firmly say that a $1700 headphone can be the most loved and most hated depending on DAC/amp synergy… which sucks.

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Just as an update, for those who are waiting, I received a tracking number from Schiit this morning for my Bifrost 2. It had been backordered since April, so apparently they have enough to at least fill some orders.

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I also got notification, super stoked!

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JFC like an 8 week backlog… Either this product is receiving incredible demand or their supply chain has been wrecked.

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I would assume both.

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It finally arrived! The sheer WEIGHT of this thing is quite impressive

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I’m looking forward to your impressions. Remember to leave it turned on as it takes a few hours to normalize.

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say what now? can you explain this? I have a Multibit in my a3 so would this apply as well?

Generally SS devices will change while they warm up, Things like R2R DAC’s or even multibit DAC’s will be heavily effected because resistors change in value with temperature.
You really want them at some sort of stable temperature, the easiest way to do that is to leave them on.
The same is true of Amps, how much depends on the design, how warm the amp runs etc etc.
I leave all my SS gear on all the time, so it’s all at a stable temperature.
The Bifrost takes about 20 minutes to settle, people claimed the Gungnir could take days, but IME it’s an hour or so to get mostly warm.

Valve gear is just as bad, but you are trading off tube life to keep them on, so I just give them 20 minutes to an hour to warm up.

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If you can’t hear a difference between the first 30 seconds and an hour, then no.

thanks @Polygonhell I appreciate the well thought out intelligent response :beers:

@DagoRed im not sure what you mean by that.

Simple, if you can’t tell a difference between the sound in the first 30 seconds of turning on the the DAC and an hour later then you don’t need to worry about warm up time. As @Polygonhell mentioned, ladder DACs may require some warm up time.

With the Modi Multibit and the Multibit bit cards, there is I think only a single multibit chip that is simpler than than some of the up scale offerings from Schiit. I just know the more “precise” the chips are to be and the more chips there are, the more warm up time is needed to ensure the accuracy of the output. Reason is that design is inherently sensitive and designed to only be accurate at operating temperatures.

For contrast, some people claim the Yggdrasil takes nearly a week to normalize in temperature.

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Ah okay right on. I appreciate the further explanation.