So, yeah, I donât know.
Lol, I nearly wish I had a âbrokenâ pair of HD58Xs. Iâm not used to those 10+khz sounds.
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Sennheiser is becoming a lot bigger basically becoming the go too audiophile brand and probably one of the most mainstream of the audiophile brands
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As far as I can remember, Sennheiser always meant quality. For me, it always was the âgo-to audiophile brandâ. 15 years ago maybe I was hearing about Sennheiser 600s and the Sennheiser Orpheus, etc. As if they were just âthe bestâ. Otherwise⊠well, thereâs Bose, which may be more mainstream, but⊠not quality, lol. And I donât view Sony/JBL/Audio-Technica as âaudiophileâ brands either because⊠yes they make âendgameâ stuff, but they just make everything. Like, cheap bluetooth speakers, cheap turntables etc.
Please donât mention Beats. 
rtings.com rate these headphones so high that not only these are the best Sennheiser 6 series headphones, they are the third best Sennheiser headphones.
But I donât trust this website 100% because of like, 660s having the worst soundstage and HD700 being the second best Sennheiser headphones.
Nice find! This whole situation is a little messed up. Iâm sure it will be a non-issue in the future. Most of the songs i listen to have female vocals and the Jubilees really make them shine. I wanted a second pair for fun-gaming but i guess Iâll look for something else. Any recommendations?
Itâs in âbest headphonesâ overall⊠and⊠Iâd agree with that. Price-to-performance ratio is impressive, and I can even listen to music with them on my old Samsung Note 3. But theyâre not even mentioned in the âbest audiophile headphonesâ category.
Probably because theyâre âhard to getâ (massdrop only) ? I donât know.
We factor in the price (cheaper headphones win over pricier ones if the difference isnât worth it), feedback from our visitors, and availability (no headphones that are difficult to find or almost out of stock everywhere).
But theyâre #12 in their âcritical listeningâ list (see at the bottom of the page). Sennheiser HD 800 S are #1. HD700 are #6, HD58X are #12.
EDIT: Still, itâs weird. Plantronics and gaming headphones are in the top 10 for âcritical listeningâ⊠Anyway, I trust their graphs⊠I donât read their reviews.
I donât use headphones for gaming, but search on this forum, there are a lot of other threads about âbest headphones for gamingâ. 
for me and my experience sennheiser has always been the most recognisable brand for most peoplewhen I talk about headphones I own with other people who arenât into headphones and I bring up AKG, beyerdynamic, no one really bats an eye until I bring up my senns and then they usually respond at that.
One Thing I do love BEATS for is normalizing âexpensiveâ headphones I no longer get judged for my above $100 cans.
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Thatâs true, I remember when if you owned over $150 headphones, average people would look at you like you threw money down the drain. And if you owned more then one pair, they could never understand what the reason for doing so would be
when they judge me for owning more than one of something I always ask them what their hobby is and then start judging them for stuff they spent too much money on or if they donât have a hobby then I make fun of them for that
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playfully, of course, I donât wanna be a dick
Maybe the new factory is because if brexit? Sennheiser is German so it might have problems with having itâs factory in the UK (if the Ireland factory is in the UK). But even if itâs not it could cause issues with shipping or something since Ireland is kind of blocked by the England.
Timely grand opening:
Ireland: Acoustic Transducers
Germany: High End
USA: Microphones
Romania: Consumer Electronics
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I got news for you man, Sennheiser also makes cheap junk, and lots of it. Judge the product, not the portfolio.
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Cheap junk from Sennheiser is rare compared to everyone else, thatâs the impression I have, and always had. Anyway, not a Sennheiser shill or whatever, I got two pairs of headphones from them and everything else I want to get is from other brands.
The more I listen to them, the more I find theyâre the exact opposite of my HD280 Pros (Iâm just talking about the frequency response, here). Even though both are used in studios, so, neutral-ish, my HD280s are bassy, fully closed (-32dB â shooting range-grade earmuffs), with a lot of sub-bass (the box said the frequency response started at 7hz, even). HD58X are fully-open with a lot of highs.
HD280s excel at sub-bass, no high treble. HD58Xs excel at high-treble (10khz-to-20khz), no sub-bass.
Definitely disorientating to switch from one to the other. Theyâre not complimentary headphones at all, theyâre just the two extremes, lol.
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I wouldnât even call the 58x an extreme I find the highs on them not veiled but very smooth I would say an extreme would be the DT 880 or 990
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The only Sennheiser headphone with âextreme highesâ imo would be the hd800/s. The 58x has plenty of subbass for me, more then I was expecting when I got them because I was expecting more of a 650 sound, which does not have a decent amount of subbass.
The 280s are great for monitoring because of their great seal and non fatiguing, rolled off highs.
Sorry, I meant, two extremes as in, literally the extremes of the frequency range. Neutral, but going extremely low/high (bass/treble). One excelling at extended, neutral sub-bass, the other one excelling at extended, neutral treble until 20khz.
Theyâre still open, not closed. 
Anyway, I now consider I have two excellent headphones for music production (HD280 Pros and HD58Xs).
Found out Iâm treble-sensitive AF, thanks to the HD58Xs, though⊠10-to-20khz âneutralâ is pain for me. So I still want T50RPs.
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Wanât to borrow my Grado SR325âŠ? Will make the 58X feel like a warm blanket afterwards.
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