I got news for you man, Sennheiser also makes cheap junk, and lots of it. Judge the product, not the portfolio.
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Cheap junk from Sennheiser is rare compared to everyone else, thatâs the impression I have, and always had. Anyway, not a Sennheiser shill or whatever, I got two pairs of headphones from them and everything else I want to get is from other brands.
The more I listen to them, the more I find theyâre the exact opposite of my HD280 Pros (Iâm just talking about the frequency response, here). Even though both are used in studios, so, neutral-ish, my HD280s are bassy, fully closed (-32dB â shooting range-grade earmuffs), with a lot of sub-bass (the box said the frequency response started at 7hz, even). HD58X are fully-open with a lot of highs.
HD280s excel at sub-bass, no high treble. HD58Xs excel at high-treble (10khz-to-20khz), no sub-bass.
Definitely disorientating to switch from one to the other. Theyâre not complimentary headphones at all, theyâre just the two extremes, lol.
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I wouldnât even call the 58x an extreme I find the highs on them not veiled but very smooth I would say an extreme would be the DT 880 or 990
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The only Sennheiser headphone with âextreme highesâ imo would be the hd800/s. The 58x has plenty of subbass for me, more then I was expecting when I got them because I was expecting more of a 650 sound, which does not have a decent amount of subbass.
The 280s are great for monitoring because of their great seal and non fatiguing, rolled off highs.
Sorry, I meant, two extremes as in, literally the extremes of the frequency range. Neutral, but going extremely low/high (bass/treble). One excelling at extended, neutral sub-bass, the other one excelling at extended, neutral treble until 20khz.
Theyâre still open, not closed. 
Anyway, I now consider I have two excellent headphones for music production (HD280 Pros and HD58Xs).
Found out Iâm treble-sensitive AF, thanks to the HD58Xs, though⊠10-to-20khz âneutralâ is pain for me. So I still want T50RPs.
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Wanât to borrow my Grado SR325âŠ? Will make the 58X feel like a warm blanket afterwards.
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Hahaha, no thanks, I already made the mistake of buying SR60s. 
Using them like one hour a year, so I will sell them.
Still, the new, bassy (i.e.: more neutral) SR80s, or even the new wireless grados, are interesting.
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And yes, I said the new SR80s. I donât understand. According to Zeos and others, theyâre not the same. According to graphs, theyâre the same. They recently changed the drivers, and not the name. Itâs really weird.
Graph comparing SR60eâs and old SR80eâs (yeah⊠more of the same):
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/1-2/graph#307/2031/306
New, bassy (more neutral) grado SR80eâs:
Edit: Grado GW100s (wireless):
So theyâre finally making more neutral stuff. My SR60s are way clearer and⊠more painful, than my HD58Xs. This is definitely better.
I was pretty surprised when grado announced they were making a WIRELESS headphone since they havenât even figured out what detachable cables are yet
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probably what gonna happen unlivke every other headphone the wireless grados wont have a 3.5 mm jack so you can used them wired
If you never attach them, they can never get stuck. (Insert smug thinking man meme)
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Gradoâs on soft and slow acoustic music you can hear micro detail. When it speeds up and or anything rock/metal you die⊠Iâve calmed mine down finally with my current setup but it was them that made we look for something new until I got the 58x.
Yeah, well, when itâs like a mountain at 2khz, another at 5khz and another at 10khz, youâll obviously hear micro-details⊠Grados are throwing them at your ears.
HD58Xs already have impressive detail and have a perfect frequency response compared to SR60sâŠ
LOL! Yeah I am well happy with the Jubilees
Is it just me or is zeos starting to show his age ?
I didnât know he had a faceâŠ
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Talking about headphone taste wise
If you like grado treble, youâre getting old.
I like beyer treble but cant seem to like grado treble.