Just seen these advertised on Amazon!
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I guess thatâs it⊠but why no cloth material on the face 
This will change Phoenixâs sound signature, and I donât think thatâs what we wanted. Maybe there will be more ear-pad models, idk.
Holding out for more models. Still will buy those pads though when theyâre available for purchase.
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Iâve ordered them, will take a couple of weeks to arrive. They will probably change the sound a bit but that doesnât bother me because it gives a couple of different sound options and the price was extremely cheap ($15).
These headphones remind me a lot of the Nighthawks but are a lot warmer sounding so it will be interesting when I get the new pads where I can do a direct comparison with the NHs with the stock leather pads on.
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Phoenix aside, I keep hearing about this Nighthawk comparison. I feel like the Nighthawk is one of those headphones Hifi Guides loves but everyone else hates. Combine this with the fact that theyâre discontinued and everyone here keeps encouraging others to buy a pair secondhand just to hear it, Iâm really intrigued by the infatuation since Iâve never heard them.
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Iâll be curious to hear about the new pads.
The Nighthawks are a fantastic headphone, its not hype IMHO. The Sivgas remind me of them.a lot but are more warmer. I donât see them as rivals but compliment each other nicely, Iâm really glad I have them both. BTW I purchased a nice aftermarket balanced cable for the Nighthawks although they arenât that difficult to drive but bring out more depth in the sound. The Sivgas donât need balanced, they are so easy to drive and listening them with stock cable. Its a really nice cable but just a tad bit too long for my liking but happy to live with that because I am absolutely loving the sound on them
Second that but I wouldnât get my hopes up. The new pads are only a few millimeters deeper and unless they upgraded the foam material, it wouldnât be any more comfortable. Currently the foam on my pads disintegrate to the touch. idk if the weird shape is to blame, the density, the stiffness, but the foam is absolute shit compared to the Pali pads (Sundaras) which have similar dimensions to the original Phoenix pads. And itâs not that the Sundara pads are a paragon of comfort but theyâre still way better than the Phoenix.
Iâm holding out for my army of BW round pads to arrive to see which is the winner.
Yeah i heard this from the DMS review that they sound like the Nighthawks. I have the Nighthawks and their a good deal more darker. not as bassy. DMS said 50% of tracks he played on them he doesnât like how they sound. Much to Zeos chagrin lol. He loves them like crazy. says their the headphones of the year. They are a touch dark though. thats Zeos jam it seems. he seems to like bassy dark headphones with a lot of soundstage. though i dont think these have a lot of soundstage do they?
yeah those replacement pads are different from the stock. i ordered them to see how they change the sound
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In my experience with this headphone, I agree 100% with what this reviewer says.
He argues somewhere between Zeos and DMS
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Oh man, this video seems to give a even more negative review to the Phoenix than DMS. And again he says the mid bass is muddy. is that true?
Iâve already stated it so, beating a dead horse here, I like my Phoenix but, a friend has offered to let me borrow an HE400I. I am looking forward to hearing something outside of my limited collection of X2HR, Sivga 004, and the Phoenix - perhaps I will learn something. For now, the Phoenix is the set that is plugged into my amp.
I think whatâs really important here is to understand what the reviewers are using as their source including the quality of the audio files.
I use my Fiio M11 listening to Flac lossless, including Hi Res 24 bit files. I also have some 32 bit .wv files and I can assure you there is nothing muddy about mid bass. Even pairing it with the Fiio B5TR and listening via Bluetooth LDAC the audio is very clean and transparent.
Out of all the reviews I have seen or read Zeos is the one which I believe to be most accurate based on what I have experienced with these headphones. In fact I would say that most of Zeos reviews feel like that to me with equipment I have that he has reviewed.
So I stand by my (and Zeosâ) judgement that this is an excellent headphone which may be source dependent (which is similar to my experience with the Nighthawks), e.g. âshit inâ equals âshit outâ! 
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I honestly donât hear any muddyness in the mid bass at all. Iâm plugged into the thx 789
Oh another âshould we take reviews as gospelâ talk. Yawn.
Anyway Phoenix pads are on amazon. Hot off the presses:
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What are peopleâs major issues with the pads? I thought the current ones were too small, which these donât look to address.
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Too small, fit is God awful for my ears and the stock pads are just thin garbage in my opinion.
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What @Gravitas said, but also the headband is too short for my head (they donât go past my earlobe) and the foam inside the pads is so weak that I think the dust bunnies beneath my bed would make a better stuffing.
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Has anyone else done the swap yet with the Sivga pads, just curious. I donât want to change them up now because I will be auditioning another set of headphones and want to be able to compare the out of box sound of the Phoenix to them.
