šŸ”¶ Sivga Phoenix

I bought the fx audio x6 mkii it will be enough. I forgot to say xd

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Is the sound similar to the X2HR?

no, the x2 more v shape.
but overall the sivga much better

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The phoenix has smaller ss, more sub bass and better texture quality.

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I used the X2HR for about a week and sold them, the highs felt fatiguing to me.
Also had the impression, that it wasnā€™t a very detailed headphone. Maybe the big soundstage made everything feel a bit too distant. Bass was a little blurry aswell.

The Sivga Phoenix (if they fit you) are an upgrade in every way except soundstage.
Itā€™s more of a semi open-back headphone. Itā€™s got quite good impact, doesnā€™t feel muddy in the low end and still pretty resolving for being just a little bit on the bassy side of things.
I think they have more of an L shape with the bass emphasis.
Never thought the bass is overpowering everything else tho.

One thing for people with glasses - the pads will rub the frame of your glasses and you will hear that.
Itā€™s the only downside I could find.
Going to test the protein leather earpads these days, maybe they donā€™t produce that much noise with glasses.

another edit: okay so itā€™s actually not the glasses frame that produces noise with the earpads - itā€™s the glasses plastic hoop behind my ear that extends a bit far and touches the padā€¦
So wearing my glasses on top of my nose actually fixes the problem and at the same time makes me look hella intellectualā€¦fuck yeah

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Received the Sivga pleather pads today (under 24hrs after ordering).
Swapping them out requires some force - as mentioned by others.

I canā€™t really tell the difference in terms of sound, would have to A/B them and donā€™t want to go thru the ordeal of changing them again.
However, comfort is increased - your ears have a bit more space. Of course instead of the stock pads fabric, you have perforated pleather now touching your skin.

The problem I had with my glasses is gone - thatā€™s cool.

Collin Yang from Sivga just wrote:
ā€œWhen comparing with the orginal earpads on the headphone, the new earpads can make deeper bass, and the high frequency will be reduced a little, but the difference is very little.ā€

A bit subbass extension & a smidge less treble? Honestly, I canā€™t confirm that at all haha.
The differences might be so marginal you could just use whatever feels more comfortable.

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I am currently listening to ā€˜Milestonesā€™ by Miles Davis (2.8MHz DSF) using Brainwavz Velour pads and it sounds amazing, more sub bass, mid range is wider and more airy and brighter treble - Iā€™ve got Philly Joe Jones drums coming at me in my right ear and Paul Chambers bass and Red Garlandā€™s piano coming at me in my left whilst Miles, Cannonball and 'Trane trade blows dead centre. Sounds absolutely fantastic :ok_hand:

IMHO this is the best pad combination I have tried and I think it is a marked improvement on the stock pads (both comfort and soundwise) and miles better than the pleathers (which I dissembled to use the plates to put my own pads on).

(Listening via balanced cable connected to my A&K Kann Alpha)

Sivga Phoenix modded with Meze 99 classics headband, way more comfortable than the stock ones.

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Nice! Welcome to teh forumses!
Canā€™t complain about comfort with the stock headband, together with the SIvga pleather I regularly forget that Iā€™m wearing headphones. Looks damn good tho.

How do you like the pads? Did you spent some time comparing with stock earpads?

Also: can someone recommend good single ended cables <50$ for the Phoenix?

Thanks for the welcome! and I kind of agree about the comfort of the Phoenix, but I wanted try something and I always loved the Meze 99sā€™ suspension headband, so I gave it a go. The new pads are better imo, the stock ones are a bit too thin for me.

There are graphs on crinacle now for the Phoenix.
I know graphs should be taken with a grain of salt.
But it is interesting to roughly compare some tunings.
Iā€™ll receive the Denon AH-D5200 soon & looking forward to comparing them.

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My money is on the AH-D5200 - and I am a Phoenix owner. Not trashnā€™ just sayenā€™

I have a AH-D5000 tooā€¦

You are probably right, Iā€™m just wondering if itā€™s a difference that warrants double the price.
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First impression Denon AH-D5200 (out of the box, no burn in) VS. Sivga Phoenix:
not worth double the price
Iā€™ll let them burn in, but itā€™s a significant step down in terms of comfort compared to the Phoenix pleather pads & headband mechanism. And I can feel the hotspot on top of my skull after 20min already with the Denon. Earpads are on the hard side compared to the soft Sivgas.

Tonality wise itā€™s not a significant step up for me & for now.
Denons are not as smooth, maybe a bit more detailed - but Iā€™m a resourceful audio friendā€¦ If Iā€™m not ā€œwowedā€ by something & comfort is already less impressiveā€¦ ehā€¦

Will see how they sound after ā€œburn inā€, but nahhā€¦ Sound wonā€™t matter much if I get annoyed by comfort in 30min alreadyā€¦

It does speak for the Sivgas thoā€¦ I guess the tonality is very subjective, but if that is up your ally youā€™ll get a great headphone. Technicality wise I couldnā€™t see issues, where the Sivga fails to deliver compared to the Denons.

disclaimer: paying 370ā‚¬ for something that fails to impress me straight away - in a time where working in a club doesnā€™t make much money - is a factor aswell

edit: Iā€™ve sent the Denon 5200 back today.
Theyā€™re not bad, probably better compared to the Phoenix in terms of technicalities.
Phoenix feels a bit warmer & chillā€¦ extended low frequencies up to the mids.
Also less treble energy, but not less detail or clarity in my ears.
And comfort was a major bummer with the 5200 anyways :relieved:

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I am late to this party but found some pads that seem to be working well based off the first 30 minutes of listening. I couldnā€™t handle the thin pads, and these I found on amazon are angled, thick as hell, and $20. They fit pretty nice over the cups so I just went without messing with the plastic ring. Sound wise I think they mimic the stock pads well with a tiny bit more stage and bass. https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Cushions-Compatible-ATH-AD1000X-Headphone/dp/B07G3D3P1L

@Failbot Thanks for the info. I will definitely file this away for future use! As you guys may or may nor know I just received my Sivga Phoenix head phones yesterday. I think for general purposes, the incredible write-up that @voja did last year (move up this thread to Aug. '20) is right on point and expresses any thoughts I might have had perfectly. So no need to re-create the wheel there! Thank you, @voja .

What was really fun for me was the whole user experience. The very receiving and unboxing process was so much fun with these things! They put the product in a really nice looking box, for one, and that gets your attention right away. Then you open it and you see a very nice presentation. The phones are there in all their splendor, snuggly fitted by this great case that comes with the phones along with a really nice accessory bag. Did I mention how nice the case is? Itā€™s really nice! :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

When you take them out of the case the first thing that strikes you is how light they are. The build quality I feel is excellent. The wood cups are flawless, and nearly all the materials are either wood or metal; very little plastic on this thing. Then you grab the cable, and you get another surprise. The stock cable on these phones is fantastic! Honestly, itā€™s the best stock cable I have seen on a pair of phones at nearly any price. So that will save me money in that I do not feel the need to buy an after-market cable. At least not any time soon. Then you put them onā€¦

I have heard the complaints about the fit of these phones, and I can see where certain folks would have issues with them. But no such issues for me. After a little prep and ā€œfitmentā€ moves (you know, the whole Zeos headband treatment!) They feel wonderful. The stock pads feel just fine to me. No ear clamping, no pressure pointsā€¦ none of it. I can wear these for hours, and I did with no issues. And the sound? Wellā€¦

I have to say, I feel like these are just what I was looking for sound wise. I wanted something warm, punchy and fun that I could pair with my SP200, and these hit the nail right on the head. I think the Voja review is spot on in his observations, so instead of trying to add to his great work, I will simply refer you to that. One thing of note, these are very easy to drive. I can run them on the SP200 at low gain and can only get to about the 11-12 Oā€™Clock position on the gain control. And I use very small adjustments to keep things safe.

Bottom line hereā€¦ these things are really, really good. The value that these bring to the table is top flight. A very good purchase in my humble opinion. I will enjoy these for years to come.

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Thank you for the kind words!

You know, I never noticed how light they are until I picked up my heavy headphones. These are incredibly light.

Once again, thanks for the praise. I truly appreciate it!!!

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Thank you for a great review. I find these to be incredibly helpful. :+1:

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@Raptor168 You seem to be enjoying your Phoenix (noticed your posts in Listening to tonight) - happy for you. :headphones:

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@Delta9K Thank you. I am enjoying them very much. They are quirky, and quite a bit of fun. They are tuned in some unique way that gives them a distinctive sound signature. It takes you off guard at first, but then you listen for a few moments and you are hooked. You just want to keep on listening. They take to EQā€™ing beautifully, too. Most importantly, they are pairing incredibly well with the SP200.

For Two-Fitty, you canā€™t ask for much more. They are keepers! As such, I am going to try one of those new ā€œFlowā€ Headphone cables from Apos Audio. They look pretty good to me. Iā€™m getting the balanced cable so I can try them on the TA-20.

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