I bought the fx audio x6 mkii it will be enough. I forgot to say xd
Is the sound similar to the X2HR?
no, the x2 more v shape.
but overall the sivga much better
The phoenix has smaller ss, more sub bass and better texture quality.
I used the X2HR for about a week and sold them, the highs felt fatiguing to me.
Also had the impression, that it wasnāt a very detailed headphone. Maybe the big soundstage made everything feel a bit too distant. Bass was a little blurry aswell.
The Sivga Phoenix (if they fit you) are an upgrade in every way except soundstage.
Itās more of a semi open-back headphone. Itās got quite good impact, doesnāt feel muddy in the low end and still pretty resolving for being just a little bit on the bassy side of things.
I think they have more of an L shape with the bass emphasis.
Never thought the bass is overpowering everything else tho.
One thing for people with glasses - the pads will rub the frame of your glasses and you will hear that.
Itās the only downside I could find.
Going to test the protein leather earpads these days, maybe they donāt produce that much noise with glasses.
another edit: okay so itās actually not the glasses frame that produces noise with the earpads - itās the glasses plastic hoop behind my ear that extends a bit far and touches the padā¦
So wearing my glasses on top of my nose actually fixes the problem and at the same time makes me look hella intellectualā¦fuck yeah
Received the Sivga pleather pads today (under 24hrs after ordering).
Swapping them out requires some force - as mentioned by others.
I canāt really tell the difference in terms of sound, would have to A/B them and donāt want to go thru the ordeal of changing them again.
However, comfort is increased - your ears have a bit more space. Of course instead of the stock pads fabric, you have perforated pleather now touching your skin.
The problem I had with my glasses is gone - thatās cool.
Collin Yang from Sivga just wrote:
āWhen comparing with the orginal earpads on the headphone, the new earpads can make deeper bass, and the high frequency will be reduced a little, but the difference is very little.ā
A bit subbass extension & a smidge less treble? Honestly, I canāt confirm that at all haha.
The differences might be so marginal you could just use whatever feels more comfortable.
I am currently listening to āMilestonesā by Miles Davis (2.8MHz DSF) using Brainwavz Velour pads and it sounds amazing, more sub bass, mid range is wider and more airy and brighter treble - Iāve got Philly Joe Jones drums coming at me in my right ear and Paul Chambers bass and Red Garlandās piano coming at me in my left whilst Miles, Cannonball and 'Trane trade blows dead centre. Sounds absolutely fantastic
IMHO this is the best pad combination I have tried and I think it is a marked improvement on the stock pads (both comfort and soundwise) and miles better than the pleathers (which I dissembled to use the plates to put my own pads on).
(Listening via balanced cable connected to my A&K Kann Alpha)
Nice! Welcome to teh forumses!
Canāt complain about comfort with the stock headband, together with the SIvga pleather I regularly forget that Iām wearing headphones. Looks damn good tho.
How do you like the pads? Did you spent some time comparing with stock earpads?
Also: can someone recommend good single ended cables <50$ for the Phoenix?
Thanks for the welcome! and I kind of agree about the comfort of the Phoenix, but I wanted try something and I always loved the Meze 99sā suspension headband, so I gave it a go. The new pads are better imo, the stock ones are a bit too thin for me.
There are graphs on crinacle now for the Phoenix.
I know graphs should be taken with a grain of salt.
But it is interesting to roughly compare some tunings.
Iāll receive the Denon AH-D5200 soon & looking forward to comparing them.
My money is on the AH-D5200 - and I am a Phoenix owner. Not trashnā just sayenā
I have a AH-D5000 tooā¦
You are probably right, Iām just wondering if itās a difference that warrants double the price.
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First impression Denon AH-D5200 (out of the box, no burn in) VS. Sivga Phoenix:
not worth double the price
Iāll let them burn in, but itās a significant step down in terms of comfort compared to the Phoenix pleather pads & headband mechanism. And I can feel the hotspot on top of my skull after 20min already with the Denon. Earpads are on the hard side compared to the soft Sivgas.
Tonality wise itās not a significant step up for me & for now.
Denons are not as smooth, maybe a bit more detailed - but Iām a resourceful audio friendā¦ If Iām not āwowedā by something & comfort is already less impressiveā¦ ehā¦
Will see how they sound after āburn inā, but nahhā¦ Sound wonāt matter much if I get annoyed by comfort in 30min alreadyā¦
It does speak for the Sivgas thoā¦ I guess the tonality is very subjective, but if that is up your ally youāll get a great headphone. Technicality wise I couldnāt see issues, where the Sivga fails to deliver compared to the Denons.
disclaimer: paying 370ā¬ for something that fails to impress me straight away - in a time where working in a club doesnāt make much money - is a factor aswell
edit: Iāve sent the Denon 5200 back today.
Theyāre not bad, probably better compared to the Phoenix in terms of technicalities.
Phoenix feels a bit warmer & chillā¦ extended low frequencies up to the mids.
Also less treble energy, but not less detail or clarity in my ears.
And comfort was a major bummer with the 5200 anyways
I am late to this party but found some pads that seem to be working well based off the first 30 minutes of listening. I couldnāt handle the thin pads, and these I found on amazon are angled, thick as hell, and $20. They fit pretty nice over the cups so I just went without messing with the plastic ring. Sound wise I think they mimic the stock pads well with a tiny bit more stage and bass. https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Cushions-Compatible-ATH-AD1000X-Headphone/dp/B07G3D3P1L
@Failbot Thanks for the info. I will definitely file this away for future use! As you guys may or may nor know I just received my Sivga Phoenix head phones yesterday. I think for general purposes, the incredible write-up that @voja did last year (move up this thread to Aug. '20) is right on point and expresses any thoughts I might have had perfectly. So no need to re-create the wheel there! Thank you, @voja .
What was really fun for me was the whole user experience. The very receiving and unboxing process was so much fun with these things! They put the product in a really nice looking box, for one, and that gets your attention right away. Then you open it and you see a very nice presentation. The phones are there in all their splendor, snuggly fitted by this great case that comes with the phones along with a really nice accessory bag. Did I mention how nice the case is? Itās really nice!
When you take them out of the case the first thing that strikes you is how light they are. The build quality I feel is excellent. The wood cups are flawless, and nearly all the materials are either wood or metal; very little plastic on this thing. Then you grab the cable, and you get another surprise. The stock cable on these phones is fantastic! Honestly, itās the best stock cable I have seen on a pair of phones at nearly any price. So that will save me money in that I do not feel the need to buy an after-market cable. At least not any time soon. Then you put them onā¦
I have heard the complaints about the fit of these phones, and I can see where certain folks would have issues with them. But no such issues for me. After a little prep and āfitmentā moves (you know, the whole Zeos headband treatment!) They feel wonderful. The stock pads feel just fine to me. No ear clamping, no pressure pointsā¦ none of it. I can wear these for hours, and I did with no issues. And the sound? Wellā¦
I have to say, I feel like these are just what I was looking for sound wise. I wanted something warm, punchy and fun that I could pair with my SP200, and these hit the nail right on the head. I think the Voja review is spot on in his observations, so instead of trying to add to his great work, I will simply refer you to that. One thing of note, these are very easy to drive. I can run them on the SP200 at low gain and can only get to about the 11-12 OāClock position on the gain control. And I use very small adjustments to keep things safe.
Bottom line hereā¦ these things are really, really good. The value that these bring to the table is top flight. A very good purchase in my humble opinion. I will enjoy these for years to come.
Thank you for the kind words!
You know, I never noticed how light they are until I picked up my heavy headphones. These are incredibly light.
Once again, thanks for the praise. I truly appreciate it!!!
Thank you for a great review. I find these to be incredibly helpful.
@Raptor168 You seem to be enjoying your Phoenix (noticed your posts in Listening to tonight) - happy for you.
@Delta9K Thank you. I am enjoying them very much. They are quirky, and quite a bit of fun. They are tuned in some unique way that gives them a distinctive sound signature. It takes you off guard at first, but then you listen for a few moments and you are hooked. You just want to keep on listening. They take to EQāing beautifully, too. Most importantly, they are pairing incredibly well with the SP200.
For Two-Fitty, you canāt ask for much more. They are keepers! As such, I am going to try one of those new āFlowā Headphone cables from Apos Audio. They look pretty good to me. Iām getting the balanced cable so I can try them on the TA-20.