Speakers/subs that can go super low 17-15hz

I keep debating on buying a more “musical” sub but honestly with one port closed off these Monoliths play tight and blend well with my speakers, no boominess or bloat. They get even tighter with both ports sealed but in the room i have them in i then lose the the bottom end i want for rap, techno, hip-hop, edm, trap, etc. One port sealed is just right for me. HT use tho is always both ports open

I don’t really know if I would consider a sub to be “musical” in the traditional sense, but do you mean something more suited to music or just a different sub

Let me try that again, when integrating the subs with my main speakers, “more musical” to me means that the subs “disappear ”. I don’t want to be able to “point them out” with my ears. I just want them to fill in the lower octaves and bring a certain “richness” that my speakers seem to lack without them. Does that make sense?

Ahhhhhh. Ok then something with a more even response and a good crossover. Have you tried tweaking the crossover on your current sub? If you get the crossover just right it could help.

Overall I am extremely pleased with what i have, unfortunately reading many many opinions and articles on different audio forums makes me wonder if I am missing out on something by not having subs known to integrate well with speakers in 2.1 systems, ie the JBL, Rel, sunfires, Genelac, or even the Rythmic subs. Those stand out in my head as highly recommended for 2.1 music systems.

I think its mainly that the sub you have is more tuned towards home theater, where subs from the manufactures you listed above are more tuned to music (from the most part). Also personally I prefer sealed subs for music because I think they are more accurate and also don’t have port noise that you might hear

I happened to have spent the better part of the afternoon, tweaking my living room system. Interestingly enough i raised the crossover point to 90hz and found the subs sound much better than the 50hz setting i had them on previously with my old Heresy speakers. The phase is spot on, and i finally also decided i prefer 1 port only closed. I’m sure next week ill do it all over agin…LOL

Lol yeah messing with speaker setups can get irritating lol because you find something you like, and then have the urge to mess with it, and potentially screw it up and then spend more time trying to get it the way you had it beforehand lol

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I’ve not yet managed to get these subs to “chuf” or make port noise, and i gotta say they play damned tight. I was testing them with drum music earlier today and it slapped you in the face. I was very pleased👍

Not necessarily “chuffing” or something like that, just the difference between the sound of a ported sub vs sealed and how the port plays a part in the overall sound

I get what you’re saying, i know i am not pleased with both ports open, these subs come with fat round foam you can plug the port holes with and are actually tuned to play with 1 or both ports sealed. I’ve had them “sealed” for a few weeks now and was fairly happy until today. I’m at one port open and one sealed at the moment it’s a good sound and they manage to get down to 18hz, haha, as recently tested. It’s all good for now, I’ve got me eyes set on a pre-amp and another amp next. Subs can wait. Hell, i may even get my old blown sealed 15’s working again. I don’t know…i need to stop and just listen to music for a while. LOL. I’m sooo looking forward to your thoughts on the new CAYIN when it finally gets there and you have a chance to play with it!

Already have it lol, have been using it quite a bit. Really everything I was looking for both sound and style wise. I can confidently say I am done with amps for awhile.

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Ohhhh…nice…is it as awesome as it looks? Start a thread and do a review…please…

Ug I never do reviews and also I don’t want to try and get people to buy it lol. It just doesn’t make sense to consider it as an option unless you have a very large overkill collection lol. I could do reviews with my stuff lol and what I have heard, but tbh I don’t think I’m that qualified, I don’t have a ton of free time, and I also don’t think I would be confident in my reviews because I could change my opinion in the future, I don’t think I would be thorough enough, and that would make me want to compare stuff and focus less on the actual enjoyment I get out of them. All I can say is that the cayin was everything I was looking for in a tube amp and I can’t see myself wanting another amp for a while

Fair enough. It scratched and itch and you feel satisfied for the time being. Eventually there will be another itch…there always is😝
Congrats on the sweet amp!

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Kinda had this issue with the older SVS. It was good in one spot and the integration to front was pretty good but i was not totally happy. low Booms where very good but when having a big sitting are it was more a meh, location of the sub might was not ideal.

The current dual setup is more in the correct positions and perfect integration with font end.
It’s just a smooth wave of bass and you cannot tell where they are from any spot. Unless opening eyes, then it’s pretty obvious.

Yes, having two subs in stereo can help with that too, as I think they can provide some good spatial information with good recordings that you can only get in very low frequencies. Also yeah older svs stuff can be good, but when you get to a pretty high end system for mostly music, their tuning can be a little less then ideal for music performance.

Also your room/environment itself can affect the sound of subs too, so properly treating your room can help

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Are there any good alternatives to the svs sb1000. Id like something preferably sealed but without the $500 price tag.

Does it have to be sealed? If so the REL T/Zero or Pioneer Elite SW-E10, Klipsch Sub-12HG do the job well enough.

These won’t go super low, but are pretty great for the price

You could build one yourself too, but that depends on if you want to do that lol

It doesn’t have to be sealed but i think the benefits of a sealed sub would work for my setup better