Hi everyone. I registered here just to reply this thread. I watched the video zeos made. It seems likely that drivers are 50mm and the 40mm on the “name” of the headphone is just a typo. Zeos did note that driver looks big for 40mm and to me the distance from driver to the cup edge looks same as on oh2000. Driver also looks the same. Internal wiring is different color.
I’ve written about oh2000 on head-fi but since there is no dedicated thread there I’ll write my impressions here and talk about driver transplant I did.
I want go into build quality. It’s excellent like Zeos said. He was very comprehensive. One thing I noticed that I think was not mentioned is that L - R indicators on the rodblocks are on “wrong” sides. On grado headphones rod goes behind the headband but on the chi-fi headphone it is at front.
I also agree with Zeos about how these sound stock. Ice pick through eardrum sounds like a soothing alternative compared to listening stock oh2000.
This is a measurement I made. Minidsp ears and even most of the more expensive measuring devices are notoriously bad at measuring higher frequencies so this is in no way accurate measurement. But it is accurate enough to show oh2000 is excessively bright headphone. I put Beyerdynamic DT1990 there for comparison as it also has elevated treble.
As stock there is not much to be said about OH2000.
- Ridiculously bright
- Bass rolls off early. Not much of an impact. Grado’s have a rolled off bass too but those can punch atleast.
- Clear midrange, not much of body.
- Average soundstage for a open headphone. Poor imaging.
Thats about it.
I tried some modifications but I did not get them to sound like I would have wanted. I think it’s because of the bad driver. Many headphones use drivers that look the same, v-moda, Somic, Ollo, and TDK come to mind. I have fiddled with Ollo S4 and Oh2000 driver side by side and I can say for 100% that they’re different drivers that look the same. The way diapragm reacts to touching is very different. Ollo’s driver is a lot more responsive and will dent if poked. OH2000 driver is just a piece of thick plastic that does not move much if pushed.
So the driver needed to go. As replacement I chose Peerless HPD-50N25PR00-32. It’s a tried and true driver used in original Kennerton Vali, Aurorus Audio: Borealis & Australis and in Hyland Headphones. Drivers cost about $10 for a single unit at parts-express and digikey. I thought if it’s good enough for a $1000 headphone it should be good enough for this $50 project.
By now everyone knows how to open the headphones. Just twist them open like bottle caps. Driver came off just by pushing it. Solder points were protected with some black goo. I recommend cutting the wire high enough so it’s clean. I don’t think soldering that goo on a new driver is a good idea. There is a small + on peerless driver. Thats where you want to solder the red wire.
After you have soldered the new driver, put it in place. It should sit firmly. Now things get bit tricky. Edge of the driver is too thick so the front cover won’t fit back anymore. You need to cut of some of the plastic edge.
I used a small carpet knive blade. What ever you use just make sure it is VERY sharp. It looks bit risky but with a sharp blade it is easier than it looks. Driver is stable in the housing so you should get a good grip. Just don’t wave the blade over the driver. The magnet is very powerfull. After you’ve cut enough to fit the driver cover back in you can glue the driver in place from the inside. Of course if you are certain you won’t break the driver you might as well glue it before cutting the edge. I did not even glue the driver so this step is optional. Now the hard stuff is done!
For me oh2000 is a bit loose. Headband is too wiggly for those heavy metal cups. I bend the headband quite a bit to get a tighter fit. It seems the headband is pretty much undestructable.
I tried some modifications but I ended up not using any. I did leave the cups open though. There was not much measurable difference in frequency response but I think without the back covers things just sound bigger somehow. I might make a permeable back grille from a sieve or something. I use the G cushions only. Small ones still sound bad.
Here is the frequency response. Sennheiser HD6XX is there for reference. Notice how basslight HD6XX looks on the measurement. That will give a better understanding to the bass level of OH2000.
Even with G cushions OH2000 is pretty much on-ear headphone. That causes problems with the fake ears on minidsp ears. I think it boosts the 2khz-4khz more than it should. Those peaks are there but I they’re smaller than measurements make it seem. Here is OH2000 measured with Grado RS2e. It has the same 2khz-4khz boost which is true phenomenon but exaggerated in my graph.
What we have here now is a very unique headphone. It has bass that no Grado can match. It does not sound as airy as Grado’s do. Partially it is because of lesser treble quantity but I think it is also because this paper dome driver is very different from Grado drivers. Even though this is not as airy as grado it is still 100% open design with foam pads. It’s free of all sort of nasty reverbs and colorations. I think Timbre is excellent. What I love most about these is the “kick in the face” sort of sound. I sold my Focal Utopia last week and I’m allready missing the dynamic sound with slam. OH2000 does not hit as hard and of course these can’t match the speed of Utopias. These can’t spook unfocused listener like Utopia does. Still the incisive way these bombard listener with music is reminiscent of Utopia. Presentation of dynamics is also on a level I find stupid good considering what kind of money were talking here.
Overall I find very little to fault here:
- For some listeners midrange can be too forward. On occasion it is too shouty for me but most of the time I have no problems.
- These sound very open but soundstage is not very big. Particularly debth is lacking. Horizontal imaging is very nice though.
- Sound quality changes quite a bit depending how headphones are positioned on head.
- I think these are not great for low volume listening. Sometimes these sound a tad veiled on low volumes.
- Treble is pretty much in line with upper midrange. These don’t at all have that sort of mild treble emphasis which would work as a “kind reminder” to your ears when you are listening too loud. That combined with the quality that makes these sound better on loud volumes might cause fatigue over time.
So whats next? I was very surprised that these sound this good just with a driver transplant. I expected I would have to mod these extensively. Headband would need some sort of comfort mod. Should be easy to do. Traditional style earpads would be more comfortable but those will allmost certainly mess up the sound. I’ve tried some stuff to place the cushions in a angle. There is a noticeable improvement in soundstage debth when ears get further from the drivers. That is something definately worth experementing. I like the bass quantity but if someone likes to tone it down it is easy to do by partially blocking the big vent on drivers magnet. Maybe something like 10% reduction could be nice if that would tighten up the bass a tad. Maybe a piece of foam behind the driver would work best.
I hope someone else would try out the peerless drivers in these. Would be nice to hear other peoples impressions. Like people have said with the build quality of the headphones there is not much to loose and drivers are only $20.
To conclude this rather lengthy first post I want to clarify that I’m not a stranger to affordable headphones. I’ve been seriously into headphones since 2010-2011 and over the years I’ve had about 200 headphones. Most of them affordable. So I did not just go from Utopia to these and get surprised by backwards effect of diminishing returns