Kinda wanted to buy these cause of Bad Guy Good Audioās list but seeing as Iād have to buy an iFi Hip DAC to use them portably that adds up to enough where Iāll probably go for something like the Mangird Tea for that price instead
I think the Hip DAC would struggle to drive them fully tbh I use āturbo modeā on my Microā¦itās normal mode is rated at >950 mW @ 32 Ohm and the Hip DAC BAL is 400mW@32 Ohmā¦they are beasts to drive.
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As long as they donāt sound like shit, Iām fine with it not being fully powered, I use a liquid spark for my dt880 600 ohm and that doesnāt have the proper specs to match these headphones either so as long as itās passable Iād live with it, there are people in this thread saying theyāre good with the hip dac on these.
Otherwise are there any other portable dacamps that can drive this thing? And in a similar price range? Thereās that xduo thingy for 300 USD, but thatās a bit too much and also that thing is way too big.
Tough call tbhā¦even my iBasso DX300 4.4mm 1240mw @32 ohms is at 70-80% so that tells you just how hard you need to drive them, sure they work with a lower output but just like some of their bigger full sized planar HP brothers they need juice to really shine 
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It has 100 MW more than the hip-dac.
WOW, thats a damn loud. On my Ibasso DX160 4.4mm low-gain (stock, no EQ), I am at around 44%
Yeah stock NOS filter on high-gain and the Z1Rās are at 40-50%ā¦I donāt fine the P1ās get too loud (within reason) as such, just sound better lol.
I hope the DX300 gives you more volume control than the DX160 then (like how my Asgard 3 is at 20% but on the Atom it could be at 5% with an iem) . Because you might want to watch your volume lol.
Yeah the pot spins round and round so levels increase slowly, Andoās on low-gain with no hiss which is a bonus
Sorry just realised Iām running my P1ās off the single ended 3.5mm as Iāve not got a balanced cable for them so thatās 350mW at 32Ī© I believe, which makes more sense 
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I just sat down with the Tinhifi P1 ($152 on Linsoul). My impression is that the sound is a bit wonky, a bit unnatural to my ear from real life instruments.
Fairly balanced tuning with a good clarity and hit in the mids. Thereās a kind of fun sound to them, but I just couldnāt find myself to enjoy them when the wonky sound kept getting at me. I have some similar thoughts in my impressions video (just posted).
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Just in case anyones interested and coming from a P1 fan boyā¦do yourself a favour try them on a hybrid tube/buffer sourceā¦small 
well spent imho 
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Any recommendations on a hybrid tube/buffer source?
Itās been a long time comingā¦and after hours and hours of trial and error thereās my fav set up for my much loved P1āsā¦DX312 > MT-604 (6J1P Voskhod tubes) XINHS: 4-core gold, silver plated copper cable and Final Eās 
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P1 with xin 4 core graphene, dunu tipscp145 and running off cayin n3 pro tube. Lush sounding AF!!
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Iāve had them for a few years, itās really work having them because you need to find that right combo that works just perfectly (personally, I still have fit issues, for one. Theyāre just so tiny + the MMCX design doesnāt help). But when you find itā¦just pure butter, pure enjoyment. Best mids Iāve heard in my life
I still so love this setā¦the fastest and tightest mofo out thereā¦tonight DX312 > MT-604 (6J1P Voskhod tubes) XINHS 4 Core 6N Single Crystal Copper and Final Eās š«” OG P1ā¦
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Iāve actually got one of these for free, I just need to wait for my mmcx cable to come and then I can see if it works for me
I love vocals but also mixing it with synths or drums or distorted guitars so thus might be a tough library for the P1 (not the plus or max)
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If youāre down to EQ, you can probably mold the sound to your liking pretty well.
OG P1 does what it doesā¦not perfect by any means but itās speed and detail is amazingā¦drive it right (needs 
and thereās nothing else that can touch in those departments) still entertains me today 
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yeah trying it on one of my test songs i clearly preferred the FH3 (bassy but has great detail) or Blon BL-03 (a nice fun and cheap IEM)ā¦ since it sounded almostā¦ shouty with the P1ā¦ like it sounded maybe like it was more scratchyā¦