🔶 Tripowin X HBB Olina

[andjayik]

I hope so, i cancelled S12 for these lol!!

[ttorbic]

I think you shouldn’t think of the Olina as a straight O2 replacement for cheap. These are, at the end of the day, different IEMs. Both VSG and precog have reviewed the Olina for what it is, which is a 100 USD single DD, and both agree it’s a rec. I don’t think you’d be disappointed if you think this way.

I only say this because I am an O2 owner and I too originally thought of the Olina as a replacement; I will compare for myself when I have both on hand, but I also think it’s unrealistic to expect the two IEMs to match in every aspect.

[Lasher]

HBB put his own “Special Sauce” on it so I don’t expect it to be the same as the O2, I expect it to be better

[saltire]

Yep - definitely need more impressions/comparisons from folk who have, or will have, both in their possession at same time.

I don’t have either (yet) but understand the O2, with what sounds like a pretty short nozzle, has fit issues for people so that’s also got to be a factor. I considered O2 but glad I held off with Olina now incoming. Will it sound same/better/worse than the O2? I’ll likely never know, but I like the fact that I’ll get a taste of a high(er) quality single DD for less than half the price of the O2.

Edit: plus we get to play scavenger hunt and maybe even a gold card

[John_W_Clark]

I also think people are getting hung up on the 5/10, in that same statement he put it with the Aria and Dunu Titan S, which are also 5. He gave a clear recommendation. As a former college instructor who had standards, I can respect that he has them, and is clear about communicating what they are.

To give an idea of how tough the precogvision scale is, the 7Hz Timeless and Shuoer S12, are both 5.8, in addition to Mangird Tea getting roughed up at 4.3, the EJ07m is a modest 6.4, Monarch MKII is a 7, and he only has 4 sets at or above an 8, including the Sony IER-Z1R at an 8.1.

[ttorbic]

Just to add fuel to the fire: Oxygen got a 6.1 I will have both and write a comparison as well, although I suspect more experienced reviewers will soon be releasing their YouTube videos on this exact comparison (e.g., Akros, Paul Wasabii, Michael Bruce, etc).

[andjayik]

all i use is AZLA SednaEarfit and cp 100

[andjayik]

Then again everyone hears differently so until they come only u can tell if there good or not.

[RaymondDaye]

I do have ER2SE, can’t say I’m too much satisfied with it’s soundstage, treble is not bright enough and isolation can use some work.
Maybe I should get some good speakers as well

[RaymondDaye]

Haven’t tried Azla yet

[amanieux]

what is michael bruce connection to this olina linsoul bespoke project ( Bespoke Projects – Linsoul Audio ) ?
was he not the one who made the first olina prototype as we see in his december 2021 video ? State of the Shortbus Dec 2021 - YouTube

[Lasher]

Let’s be Honest with ourselves here guys and gals. Everyone here already knows that this is going to be a price busting earphone at 100 bucks. Anyone that watches HBB at all can get a good sense of the kind of man he is. He ain’t gonna put his name on junk. Also we are all Headphone/Earphone addicts looking for that next big thing. For 100 beans we are all going to buy it lol

[paulwasabii]

Just a little context, Oxygen Set 1 was an older loaner and Set 2 is my set measured out of the box. One channel on Set 2 is most of that difference. A bit of unit and measurement variation more than any changes to Oxygen over time I think.

[hawaiibadboy]

Because that was him trying to do himself what I said I was going to do in Sept/Oct.
02>>>Mele shell
He helped in confirming the driver.
When he did that vid Olina was already built and in boxes. The hold up was my lyrics cars which went from China to Japan to China under covid mailing situation so the Olina got delayed for those cards

[Precogvision]

Didn’t expect to see so much talk about my rankings here haha. Just to lend some further context, I would say that a “5” from me is about as good as it gets for $100 right now. In my mind, that’s basically the equivalent of roughly a “B” grade on Crinacle’s ranking list.

I don’t have as much data to support where this would stand on my ranking list; however, you can see below that it’s very high up there for $100. In fact, the only “6” I’ve ever awarded to a sub-$100 IEM is for the Etymotic ER2XR which, technically, was more than $100 at one point anyways.

In an ideal world, my ranking list would also be normally distributed but, again, I just don’t have enough data and I’d rather score lower than higher. Frankly, I also didn’t put much thought into it when making the scoring system initially which is my fault. Maybe in the future I’ll make it Gaussian, as I can completely see why a 5/10 seems like a low score at first glance.

[piR2]

Your rating distribution is more than fine. The log-normal distribution is even more scientific. Cited from (“Log-normal distribution - Wikipedia” Log-normal distribution - Wikipedia): “It is a convenient and useful model for measurements in exact and engineering sciences, as well as medicine, economics and other topics (e.g., energies, concentrations, lengths, financial returns and other metrics).”

Taking into account the specificity of IEM, that we get a relatively small increase in quality for a technological input (read price), the number of very good products should be smaller than average and below average.

[pylaczynski]

I think lognormal is more useful for values of theoretically infinitely positive values, whereas there is clearly defined range limits in +10 in precog’s ranking scale.

Nevertheless, I think this perceived feeling of 5 being negative (where even in Gaussian distribution it should be nothing less than average) is because of this positive bias in most reviews you see around the web (not only audiophilic) that was discussed in one of the crinacle’s videos. I like the rating of Precog’s even though it trashes most of my favourite, because it is consistent and does not take the price into the consideration (I assume) as one of the few along with Crinacle. And statement “… for the price” can be misleading a lot of times to the potential buyer
Have a nice weekend!

[piR2]

In Gaussian distribution 5 is indeed average but for log-normal 5 is well above average, at least at Precogvision’s dataset. So, to make the discussion short, Olina is a very good item according to the technology involved in it (single DD)

[pylaczynski]

Yes, I wrote above that it should be adjusted towards 6,5-7 score in gaussian
But eot I am waiting for my own olina to write my own impressions. All in all the expectations are really high I am hyped!

[amanieux]

taking price in account is important but getting the big picture in order to have a sense of where the diminishing return hits is also important that is why some rating offers both : Absolute rating (not taking price in consideration) and Value rating (taking price in consideration) such as it is done here : IEM – No Borders Audiophile