Yeah, seems like theres going to be some complications with ps5 and dac amps then if it needs special firmwares. That would be a question to ask Schiit about if someone wanted to use their products… then again, if G6 works on ps5 then you can just grab a G6 + an asgard 3 and connect the two using the G6 as the dac… granted you’d need certain cables… it’s just the dac that connects the consoles.
@Falenkor I’m not the best person to describe certain things, I might not have the right idea what properly powering them means. But to me the 770s seem to have plenty of rumble to them when used, and they sounded perfectly fine with detail. The 6xx seems to work fine, mid sounded great and I could hear a little texture to the bass.
What do you possibly mean by complications with special firmware? I have plug my element 2 into my PC, table, Switch, Surface Book, Phone and never experience anything that it wasn’t compatible with or sound problems. Can always send them an email they’re super friendly, fast reply, andexcellent customer support. When I messed up my amp from my own doing, I sent it in and they didn’t charge me one cent and it only took them a couple hours fix it. They have really good reputation and I’ll probably purchase future equipment through them cuz they’re great to deal with.
the first thing to go on the 770 is the bass, it becomes uncontrolled flabby and then recessive by a good amount…
JDS issued a special firmware like you mentioned so it can work on the ps5, Other companies units may very well have this same potential issue to where they won’t work correctly on the console without special firmware being implemented into the unit.
agreed, great customer service, I think I will go ahead and send Schiit an Email about this involving their units to see if they have any insight on whether or not things such as modi, modius, fulla, and hel are compatible to the ps5.
When I have time I’ll test it out I’m curious is it does. I might have just been listening and not really trying to analyze carefully.
That would be cool I was curious at one point since I thought the Modius stack was pretty sweet looking.
What cables would I need if I was too run that setup? Seems they’re not the type to just plug in and play. Can you explain to me how the amp and dac works together with the headphones? What’s the importance of them?
been a while so I don’t remember precisely which you would use in this setup case… I would think the USB would be used for the connection to the ps5 in this particular case meaning you’d need the Optical port to RCA cable to make use of it. Then again, PS5 is far far too new to make any calls of certainty from me.
you should be able to find some useful information here as well as you can ask any questions you have about potential setups with your new console.
how do the dt 990 and jdl sound as a combo? do you think the jdl supports it good enough that it shouldn’t be an issue on my console
I take it your talkinga bout the element? Should be fine, though not sure if it will drive the 600 ohms I would recommend getting some clarification on that
It sounds great with all my headphones and powers them with no problem at all. 600 ohm not sure.
@Falenkor was right about not being powered to full headphone potential. After switching between the Element and the Ps5 with the Dt 770 and 6XX . I tested with some music and there definitely it’s a sound difference. On the controller the sound stage is definitely more reduced sound more in your head. The 770 is not as impactful with the bass, had some rumble, treble seemed just a tad more sibilint, there’s a little rumble. The 6XX had a little bit of rumble, the sound stage sounded more center.
On the Element 2 there is more detail and sound much fuller. Bass was more impactful and sound stage was wider. I noticed when playing Warzone and Hitman 3 it was harder to tell as big of difference in sound since gaming audio engine aren’t as detailed and not alot going on compared to music. Using the headphone still will work till you upgrade to a Dac/amp combo.
Also my Dt 770 are actually 80ohm, i don’t know why I thought they were 250ohm. I would imagine it would definitely be more of a struggle with the 250ohm.
The dt 990 250ohm sounded great on the Element 2 when I had them, they were on the bright side for sure with great bass. I liked the TYGR a bit more since the warmer sound. I listen to stuff pretty high so the TYGR were better for me, and to save my hear a little longer.
yeah, if it is already having issues with 80 ohm it definitely isn’t going to push the 250 ohm whatsoever… 80 ohm 770 is alright… but not good on the 880 or 990 for that matter as they sound quite terrible in my opinion. He will definitely want to grab an amp if he plans to run the beyers then.
so the tygr and the element 2 make a better combo than the 990 and jdls?
Ok, I think the TYGR and element 2 is the better combo. But it depends what you really want, if you our super analytical person and love treble the 990s would probably be better. But if you want something that isn’t going to be fatiguing, warmer and you can listen to it for longer sessions at a higher volume the TYGR is a safer bet.
On the dt990s gunshots and certain sounds were piercing and shrill at times. Most people are going to prefer the TYGR then the 990. But everything in headphones and equipment is so damn subjective to everyone. For gaming the TYGR and element 2 are great 100% recommend.
But honestly @Falenkor is the Beyer master on the forum he’s very knowledgeable about all modles and has owned almost all beyers at some point. I do believe he prefers his modded 990 over the TYGR, i could be wrong.
I would agree with this statement. In regards to amp pairings I would rather listen to a tygr run off an element than a 990 out of a neutral amp. The bet pairing for a 990 especially one with new pads are tube amps that have slight treble roll off or amps like the liquid spark that have slight treble rolls off
well turns out the tygr are basically sold out evetywhere 
, what’s a good alternative to test out until they get instock
easy to drive good for gaming open back headphones? sennheiser hd 599, 58x are decet alternatives so are the shp 9600s . the akg k712 and 602 line are decently somewhat easy to drive but I would grab an amp for those
how do you feel about the 660s
I like it a bit pricey for what it is and if it’s just for gaming the 58x is a much better pickup. but for around the same price I could just pick up an amp and grab a dt 880 or 990 250-600 ohm and have a better gaming experience
fot for 250-600 ohms, the real question is can my console support that with an amp? i’ve been hearing alot about a dac, can you explain to me how those works?