When I have time I’ll test it out I’m curious is it does. I might have just been listening and not really trying to analyze carefully.
That would be cool I was curious at one point since I thought the Modius stack was pretty sweet looking.
What cables would I need if I was too run that setup? Seems they’re not the type to just plug in and play. Can you explain to me how the amp and dac works together with the headphones? What’s the importance of them?
been a while so I don’t remember precisely which you would use in this setup case… I would think the USB would be used for the connection to the ps5 in this particular case meaning you’d need the Optical port to RCA cable to make use of it. Then again, PS5 is far far too new to make any calls of certainty from me.
you should be able to find some useful information here as well as you can ask any questions you have about potential setups with your new console.
how do the dt 990 and jdl sound as a combo? do you think the jdl supports it good enough that it shouldn’t be an issue on my console
I take it your talkinga bout the element? Should be fine, though not sure if it will drive the 600 ohms I would recommend getting some clarification on that
It sounds great with all my headphones and powers them with no problem at all. 600 ohm not sure.
@Falenkor was right about not being powered to full headphone potential. After switching between the Element and the Ps5 with the Dt 770 and 6XX . I tested with some music and there definitely it’s a sound difference. On the controller the sound stage is definitely more reduced sound more in your head. The 770 is not as impactful with the bass, had some rumble, treble seemed just a tad more sibilint, there’s a little rumble. The 6XX had a little bit of rumble, the sound stage sounded more center.
On the Element 2 there is more detail and sound much fuller. Bass was more impactful and sound stage was wider. I noticed when playing Warzone and Hitman 3 it was harder to tell as big of difference in sound since gaming audio engine aren’t as detailed and not alot going on compared to music. Using the headphone still will work till you upgrade to a Dac/amp combo.
Also my Dt 770 are actually 80ohm, i don’t know why I thought they were 250ohm. I would imagine it would definitely be more of a struggle with the 250ohm.
The dt 990 250ohm sounded great on the Element 2 when I had them, they were on the bright side for sure with great bass. I liked the TYGR a bit more since the warmer sound. I listen to stuff pretty high so the TYGR were better for me, and to save my hear a little longer.
yeah, if it is already having issues with 80 ohm it definitely isn’t going to push the 250 ohm whatsoever… 80 ohm 770 is alright… but not good on the 880 or 990 for that matter as they sound quite terrible in my opinion. He will definitely want to grab an amp if he plans to run the beyers then.
so the tygr and the element 2 make a better combo than the 990 and jdls?
Ok, I think the TYGR and element 2 is the better combo. But it depends what you really want, if you our super analytical person and love treble the 990s would probably be better. But if you want something that isn’t going to be fatiguing, warmer and you can listen to it for longer sessions at a higher volume the TYGR is a safer bet.
On the dt990s gunshots and certain sounds were piercing and shrill at times. Most people are going to prefer the TYGR then the 990. But everything in headphones and equipment is so damn subjective to everyone. For gaming the TYGR and element 2 are great 100% recommend.
But honestly @Falenkor is the Beyer master on the forum he’s very knowledgeable about all modles and has owned almost all beyers at some point. I do believe he prefers his modded 990 over the TYGR, i could be wrong.
I would agree with this statement. In regards to amp pairings I would rather listen to a tygr run off an element than a 990 out of a neutral amp. The bet pairing for a 990 especially one with new pads are tube amps that have slight treble roll off or amps like the liquid spark that have slight treble rolls off
well turns out the tygr are basically sold out evetywhere 
, what’s a good alternative to test out until they get instock
easy to drive good for gaming open back headphones? sennheiser hd 599, 58x are decet alternatives so are the shp 9600s . the akg k712 and 602 line are decently somewhat easy to drive but I would grab an amp for those
how do you feel about the 660s
I like it a bit pricey for what it is and if it’s just for gaming the 58x is a much better pickup. but for around the same price I could just pick up an amp and grab a dt 880 or 990 250-600 ohm and have a better gaming experience
fot for 250-600 ohms, the real question is can my console support that with an amp? i’ve been hearing alot about a dac, can you explain to me how those works?
The tygr and the element are better paired due to just how bright the 990 is especially when the 990 has new pads on it… they are very bright and for some this is just straight unbearable which is why tube amps or amps such as liquid spark get recommended for the 990 as this rolls off the treble more… also the 990 in 600 ohms has less treble peak than the 250 ohm version and sounds better.
pretty much this ^
yeah, but in this case it just depends on the person… as if you ask me, just as an example, I prefer the 990 as I don’t have any intolerance to the 990s and they sound much better to me… they are more EQ friendly and they have ways to dial back that treble… you can get cheap tygr filters and push them on the 990s to reduce the treble or simply change the pads to a wide variety and it will heavily deplete the treble… It is in this case you can even practically make a 990 dark sounding through some changes made to the headphone. Tygr however, does not need changes… its nice out of the box, low impedance requirement, lighter than the 990, yet still maintaining that laser accuracy and large soundstage… it fits practically everywhere it just doesn’t do well on EQ. It depends on what your looking for.
I do indeed, but like I said it definitely depends on the person. Yes, I have at one point owned every single beyerdynamic model as they are my favorite brand of headphone. Tygr definitely has it’s place… however, it also depends on what you want… the 990 is more flexible but the tygr is lighter and can be more comfortable for longer sessions… 990 can be bought cheaper on the used markets(quite literally I have seen the 600 ohm at only $100 while tygr is always around $200 sometimes $165) seeing how the filters are roughly $10 and a pair of pads is around $40-$70 this makes modifying the 990 technically cheaper than the tygr if you shop around correctly.
I personally hated neutral amps for the 990 so I can agree to this, the highs are rather shrill and unforgiving… and while I didn’t have an issue with the sibilance it was very fatiguing this goes for many beyers… mind you asgard 3 does have some treble roll off which I would say is an optimal step from the liquid spark if one wants to go that route. G6 is pretty neutral but it’s fine… it has a built in EQ as well which can just dial the treble back if need be.
Tygr are very hard to obtain, they restock roughly every 3 weeks and the only way to buy them by themselves is through Beyerdynamic directly or through a 3rd party seller
skip the 599 go with 598… 599 is too bassy in comparison. 58x is a fantastic alternative so agreed here with rice but differnt signature.
pretty much yeah, though, if hes wanting well rounded yet bright I would just say maybe the 880s instead of the SHP… though shp9600 is the alternative to the tygrs I would say… it’s just not as accurate and the akg k series has imaging issues.
660s have fantastic imaging, but a very very narrow and intimate soundstage. They are more demanding than the 500 series at 300 ohms and typically respond best to tube amps… though you can get an ifi zen stack and do just fine with these. Sennheisers fit practically everywhere and any genre thanks to their very neutral and balanced approach of the sound signatures… 500 series has the better soundstage 600 series has the better imaging and sound qualities.
absolutely agreed.
so as the previous guy confirmed the ps5 cannot properly drive 250 ohms… you simply need a amp and a dac. DACS or Digital to Audio Convertor do exactly what their name suggests and converts the signal… but they also clean up that signal and provide better cleaner sound… you need a dac in most cases especially for pcs as you can get distortion, feedback, hum, etc in your sound without one and the ps5 cannot support just an amp like the PC can as you can technically use the PC as a dac though I don’t really recommend doing that lol. As for the Amp or Amplifier again just like it suggests this is the power brick of the setup… you need this to power your headphones and this is the unit you plug the headphone into… in the setup the connection would be ps5 → DAC → AMP with any other units in the setup taking their places such as equalizers or preamps. The amp has a more significant change on your sound quality than the dac and is more important… you want your amp to provide enough power so you get the full sound from the headphones… as without that you face multiple issues for example, bad imaging, narrow soundstage, flabby or no bass, very quiet sound, distortion, etc.
the consoles do support amps yes, but you can also get a combo unit amp and dac(the G6 for example is a combo unit) which save you money however, they provide less quality of sound and tend to be weaker in terms of the amp.
sorry bout late responses, super busy of late…
what amp/dac provide the best quality?
there is no best, subjective.