Why the pursuit of hyper detail?

Yeah. But also that kind of headphone with the thin flexible wires and comfort strap. Heck even something akin to a focal type headband would work

Review that mentions modularity with headband:

Aaaaaaa I just got the D8000 Pro I don’t need another pair lol. I will personally just wait for another version that might come around and be better lol

I do think that the amps I have would be a good match because they might tame the treble, but I just can’t justify it with the current comfort issues (also would have to figure out what I want to sell)

Also they might be really good for mastering to that could give me another excuse

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If I had the sheer disposable income to experiment, I’d buy them and experiment with modifying the headband and pads.

I don’t know if I would be comfortable with modding something like that lol. Not the most steady handed lol

I would be curious to see if they could replace any of the headphones I use in my mastering rotation (or just add them into the rotation without replacing any of them as they would be more speaker like

That is a very interesting design. How do they sound?

Very good, it fixed the issues I had with the regular D8000 I had, and will for sure be used in the mastering rotation. It has a more intimate sound and fixed the subpar bass and treble performance. It is less “fun” then the D8000 but I did buy these for work. Also much better at high volumes then the regular version. It’s just pretty dang neutral yet with a more enjoyable sound. It might replace my mx4’s in the rotation, but I don’t know yet

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Also I should say that in their presentation nothing is pushed forward or backwards if it was mixed that way, so it’s good for checking where sounds will be presented in a mix for me

well hell, lets bypass the 4000$ bill and just start taking apart our speakers! I got a pair of really nice elac’s

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Bass you can feel lol

Lol. Imagining strapping those Dayton exciters dms used in that one video to a pair of solo cups as headphones

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Or just sticking them to your back and your head lol. Next level bone conductors

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I would disagree that “speakers are better” because speakers are very room dependant. When you put the speakers on your ears, the room isn’t a problem.

So speakers are only “better” placed properly in the properly treated room. IMO

Sure the vibrations liquified my occipital lobe and now I’m not only blind but incapable of processing any visual information…
…but the sound?
chef’s kiss
incredible

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youre the man with the plan, what do you think Mon? are speakers better than headphones?

To get the same level of detail out of a speaker setup as you would a headphone one is gonna cost a lot more :moneybag:
Saying that if I had the space and the finical were with all (min £20k+++) then a speaker system all day long for me.

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they are bigger speakers i have to admit. but i see IEM’s selling for high prices and people saying they are the best they’ve ever heard. maybe the closer you get to the ear the less size in a speaker you need? Are speakers truly better than headphones?

Speaker-headband design at it’s best. They might be missing the low end. :wink:
Might need a bit more muscle for the 220lbs speakers-headband version and of course the another 260lbs for the actual subs. The amount of ducktape, easy move ability and perfect sound… :laughing:
Not forgetting the amount batterys on a trailer to get even few minutes of music.

yes. Good speakers are better than good headphones.

I only got HD58Xs and T50RPs (…for now), but I never heard “annoying” detail yet. Is this a thing? If the detail is annoying, maybe you’re using stuff that “compresses” the music too much. Like Schiit stuff, or ATH-M40Xs even. Both apparently gives you a ton of detail… that isn’t supposed to be there. Maybe look at more dynamic headphones/speakers… or something other than Schiit.

EDIT: Wait, I also got a pair of broken Wharfedale 9.1s, and they sound like I’m listening to a cube full of detail… But the detail is as loud as the bass drum (etc). Yeah… way too compressed equals defective for me. But detail is never a problem if the dynamics (volume difference between loud things and subtle things) are realistic.

I mean, it makes sense. The best way to feel like people are playing music right in front of you, is putting loud enough music-making-things right in front of you.

…You’ll just need literally 10 times, or even 100 times the money to get to the detail level of headphones, though.

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Yes exactly.
True. You need bigger budget. More and bigger gear means more stuff to buy, or what ever the listeners “end” goal is.
Also the place and surroundings and stuff + thing in it comes in the game.
Bigger game but also bigger rewards in my mind.

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If your goal is realistic sound representation, and you have good speakers in a good room, then yes speakers would get you closer to that goal. But that’s not everybody’s goal and not everybody actually enjoys speakers more

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