đŸ”· xDuoo MT-602

I don’t understand the question?
The ‘power’ goes into your headphones, not into your iphone :wink:

I have a JDS Labs Element 2, and my iPad won’t play music from it because it’s too much power for the iOS device. I’m worried this amp will have similar issues playing with an iOS device.

So this amp would plug into my ipad or iphone via an Apple dongle, which would serve as my DAC. Wondering if this is a feasible setup.

Does that clarify my question?

The ELEMENT II is a DAC/AMP combo. Perhaps there’s some compatibility issues using its DAC with IOS devicesđŸ€š The MT-602 is only an AMP. No built in DAC. So you can either use a separate DAC, or lightening dongle->3.5->RCA->MT-602. The power of the AMP shouldn’t impact the source. If anything you could lower the volume on your IOS devices if you feel its too hot going into the AMP.

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I think youre saying the Ipad is trying to provide power to the amp. Is your amp plugged into the wall socket or just to your ipad via the USB port?

If you need a device that will be powered by the ipad battery, the xduoo wont work for you. It doesnt run on USB power. Needs to be plugged into a socket as well as the ipad.

Thanks! I think this is the answer I was looking for.

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Just tried this and it works absolutely fine iPhone dongle > RCA > Little Dot MKII > Phantoms

as @skian said and the MKII has :muscle:

PS you have to select other and not HP output when you’re prompted.

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The MT-602 has it’s own powersource. So doesn’t draw any from the ipad

Just make sure you use the Apple Camera adapter if using an external DAC, also make sure the DAC is power on before connecting it to the iPad/iPhone.

Just to add the MT-602 also has a 3.5 aux in on the front as well if you don’t want to adapt to RCA
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Noob question: what do the following terms even mean?

  • RCA IN
  • RCA OUT
  • AUX IN

RCA are those red and white cables. One for left and one for right channel. They carry audio in or out. So you could connect a dac and amp together by connecting an rca cable to the DAC’s rca out and the other end to the amp’s RCA in.

AUX ports are essentially headphone ports. Like where you plug your headphones into a computer. So an Aux in would mean you could input audio signal from another device, like an ipod or another amp, using a male to male aux cable.

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Good man, I couldn’t address those points.
To add, the “RCA OUT” would take the audio signal in and allow you to control that signal out via the volume knob to connect a power amp for speakers (or powered speakers) or even a solid-state headphone amp that you’d like to “dirty-up” the sound of with the tube preamplification.

Still struggling to understand the Element 2 problem that C.A.T.H mentioned earlier today — is it possible you were trying to run the dac/amp from the iOS device rather than from the wall? I doubt this, cause that unit doesn’t even use USB power. The connection of the MT-602 will be different, requiring a dongle or other DAC device (then a 3.5mm male from dongle → rca male connection to plug in RCA IN on back of MT-602 // or a 3.5mm male to 3.5mm connection if you simply want to plug it into the front AUX IN port of MT-602)

I get concerned about new setups when so many questions remain about the previous device. The Element should have just had USB signal running into it from the iOS device, and power into a wall. Then headphone in. There’s other ways to get audio in, but this is what you’d do to get what you’re paying for. “Too much power for the device” is concerning. What happened?

I ask because now we’re playing around with tubes, though the MT-602 is a very flexible, easy unit. I type this while listening through one.

Not sure what changed, but my iPad Air now works with the Element 2!

For context, my Element is powered by its own power brick, and I connect the Element to the iPad via a USB-C adapter (to my surprise, a USB-C dongle from Amazonbasics actually worked!)

Here’s a snippet of the error message I used to receive:

Update on the original topic: Just traded for an MT 602. Looking forward to my first TUBE experience!

Thanks to everyone for their input.

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i-devices are weird :stuck_out_tongue:

Always been android, bought an iphone and it won’t charge off my car’s USB port xD

Happy you found your solution!

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Anyone tube rolling yet on this amp?

Tube rolling article

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Got 4 Voskhod 6J1P-EV’s coming for my MT-604 they’re on the way but I’m not sure I’ll get them as Paypal didn’t seem to list my full address correctly for some reason :man_shrugging: defo not the Ukraine sellers fault, they’re not expensive in fact you can get 10 for circa 20 bucks so if I don’t get them I’ll reorder with an edited address :+1:

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Can I ask why you settled on the Voskhod?

I will probably pick one from the list Nr48 linked which adds treble+soundstage.

No real reason I’m just going to work my way through a few different makes.

I’ve got General Electric 5654W, Siemen 5654w and Mullard M8100 for my Little Dot ll and out of those the Siemen’s are best for treble the least “tubey” if you like :+1:

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Thanks! Will try the siemen’s first :slight_smile:

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