šŸ”¶ ZMF Aeolus

really? i always have so much trouble getting the damn things on

Using something like a guitar pick might help with getting it over the lip

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you would probably hear more with the suede as reverb is an effect that creates a sense of space so you wont to preserve as much of the high frequency which contribute the positional qeues. another thing about burn in, google pink noise and put it on at a decent volume and play it overnight and while youā€™re at work for a couple day, youā€™ll probably hear more break in.

This is how I put them on, it really isnā€™t that much trouble nor does it take any time, and this is a great simple way to do it.

do you think the dark sound diminishes with break in too? cause i swear it was pretty dark when i first tried them and less dark when listened to them later.

When you get used to it, it does end up sounding less dark, because your ears adjust to picking out the sounds in the mids and highs better. At least, thatā€™s what seems to be happening with me since using the aeolus pads.

Iā€™m convinced of the psychological ā€˜burn inā€™ after experiencing it enough times with different headphones and iems. And I know itā€™s not a physical burn in because Iā€™m talking about listening to something, disliking it, coming back to it after a week, and being like, ā€˜holy shit. I think I like this now. whatā€™.

As far as physical burn in goes though, Iā€™m still a bit skeptical, I mean how am I supposed to tell if a headphone I like sounds better later on because of me getting used to it vs. driver burn in making it sound better. At the very least it sounds plausable, and so many aeolus users and even Zach himself mention the aeolus has a high burn in time.

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Coming from Zach, I think it could be a marketing thing to encourage people to just give the users time to get used to a headphone.
Tyll did some pretty in depth testing with burn-in himself and the only thing he could find was inter-modulation distortion got a few db better over a period over time. Either wayā€¦ whether burn is really a thing or not, itā€™s definitely not going to drastically change the frequency response in any real meanginful way such as make a headphone that is ā€˜darkā€™ suddenly not dark.

Just have to take a step back and realize that all sound is for us is the tiny bones inside our ears vibrating which our brains then have to interpretā€¦
That interpretation that happens is arguably going to be the most complex and at the same time uncontrollable part of the audio chain. As it is with ALL of our senses, your brain is going to be doing all sorts of compensating based on a number of factors.

Itā€™s like getting used to scorching hot waterā€¦ etc.

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Yes thats true. The nervous system can get used to things like smell. Why not hearing too? But i swear thereā€™s got to be something to this burn in thing. Those headphones sounded way better the next day.

I agree with all this. One problem is that there needs to be a separation of word use here. Since burn in is used to describe two very different, but conflatable concepts, one being provable and the other not so much. I think itā€™d be really helpful to have a good articulable distinction. Iā€™ve taken to calling it mental burn-in, but I think Iā€™d like to avoid using burn-in at all.

I mean I think it would just be considered acclimation reallyā€¦ Like acclimatizing to living in a completely different climate. So maybe you can call it something like Audiophile Acclimation or ā€˜audioclimā€™ for shortā€¦ I dunnoā€¦ lol

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This Aeolus cable is too short. Can someone recommend a cable thats longer for cheap? I mean real cheap :expressionless:

What do you call these cables anyway? what do i search for? Mini XLR to regular XLR?

I like to use the term acclimate which people who replaced my flooring used. They dumped boxes of floor planks 3 days before they started to install it. They waited for the flooring material to acclimate and reach equilibrium between air and moisture levels of the household.

Not saying headphones or wood/materials in particular headphones need that. There is a lot going on into how headphone sound is perceived. But I do think there is an adjustment period whether it be the ears or otherwise.

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Edit - sorry, missed the cheap part! Iā€™m not really finding a cheaper cable anywhere else though.

Iā€™m currently using a Periapt Pro XLR cable on mine.

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I found dan hart cables and his are cheaper. but their too short also, so i emailed him to see his price for a longer cable about 7 foot

The Hard Audio cables come in 2 piecesā€¦ if you want a longer cable, you just have to order one of the longer interconnects.

Hart doesnā€™t have the dual 4-pin XLR cables For ZMF on their website, though theyā€™re getting them added soon. They will make them through a custom order though. Iā€™ve been emailing with them and am getting several custom cables made, but they wonā€™t be in until the end of January because theyā€™re pretty booked up on the custom cable side of things.

If youā€™re doing just one amp connection ($18+) and one headphone cable ($42+), they cost about the same as a single, complete Periapt cable.

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ok i swaped pads to the suede and wow, big improvement for me. ive swapped pads on headphones before and didnt hear much of a difference. but theres a big difference here. the sound they had before was getting me down. i just needed more clarity. it seemed to turn up the treble too. not sure of thats a good thing.

one thing that surprised me was when i removed the pad i found the driver had what looked like a aluminum foil over it. like completely over it. how is sound getting through this thing?

Thereā€™s a big difference between all the recommended pads for it, but the suede would probably fit your preferences the most so Iā€™m glad you finally changed the pads. : )

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That is actually a VERY fine mesh. If you really want a clear sound you can take the mesh off and it should up the treble and lower the bass from what Iā€™ve heard.