šŸ”¶ ZMF Auteur & Auteur Classic

I would be more concerned about whatever they hit than the 1266 themselves.

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How do you like the Auteur on your G111 amp?

I no longer own a G111. But I like it a lot on all of my amps. But it does sound best on my Quicksilver Headphone Amp.

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Got my Auteur in Wenge around 2-3 weeks ago. Had to make an account to rave about them a little bit (excuse my lack of images, I am under new user restrictions)!

A little bit about me. I am a full-time Graduate Student under an RA (So make very little money). With the pandemic, music became a much larger part of my workflow. I had originally used a Sennheiser Hd 58x and Schiit Fulla 2, which I had for a few years. The long and short of it is that I was looking for a direct upgrade. I got the Auteur because I wanted to not have to purchase another upgrade any time soon. Presently I am running the Auteur single ended out of an Asgard 3, fed by a Motu M4.

Everytime I sit down to work I am floored by how amazing these are. I often get distracted as the music jusr feels so real. I just want to sit back and relax. So in some ways I have to listen to less music to get my work done, lol.

One question I had was about pad swaps. I got the Eikon Suede as a secondary pad option. The sound changes a lot in a way that I canā€™t really describe. Like the soundstage gets smaller, but the presentation feels more diffuse. So I have to turn up the volume to get the levels of the vocals to match. I initially didnā€™t like them compared to the Auteur Lambskin pads, but I spent a few days with them and they are quite enjoyable! I just wish I knew exactly what was going on so I could explain it. Does anyone have measurements they could share?

Anyway, theyā€™re awesome and Iā€™ma keep them 'till I die. :slight_smile:

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According to the ZMF site, the Eikon pads are warmer than the default Auteur pads. More lush and fuzzy, maybe losing some detail retrieval, but gaining someā€¦ pleasantness in the treble or mids maybe? I donā€™t know, just guessing based upon the diagram.

How is the comfort of the Auteur? The weight? Coming from the 58x, a light Sennheiser, do you notice the headphones on your head overly much? If you wear glasses, does it both you at all to wear glasses while wearing the Auteur?

With the Auteur vs. the 58x, also, would you say you routinely notice new things in the music you are listening to, or is it moreso just a refinement across the board of the sound?

Like you, Iā€™m considering buying top tier or class so as not to be left guessing about it and make several purchases in rising increment of quality/price before then. Saves me time and money, I figure. Also like you, I use headphones while I work basically throughout the day.

Enjoy! Glad youā€™re happy.

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But at the same time, Suede is somehow supposed to be more neutral than Lambskin. I donā€™t wear glasses, so thatā€™s not an issue. Weight is a tad more than I am used to, but itā€™s not at all a problem if you wear them for a few hours. I wouldnā€™t do 8+ hours straight though. If youā€™re like me, and work in 2-3 hour chunks with 5 minute stretch breaks every 30-45 minutes then you should have no issue.

If you have a VR headset, do NOT use these with them. They donā€™t clamp enough to stay on your head if you whip it around that fast. I use the sennheiserā€™s for that.

Detail is definitely way up! It feels like I can hear everything. Like nothing at all is lost. This also means that most of my music library sounds like a dumpster fire. Most of the music I own is shared with my family, and I took that iTunes library and uploaded it to Google Play (R.I.P). Re-downloading this library caused a lot of the files to undergo additional compression, so I can hear the generational artifacting. Not fun.

But on the music I have acquired since, they are absolutely stellar! Canā€™t find even a single complaint.

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ZMF have a diagram on what the pads do to the various headphones:

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What would you say is the better headphone for electronic - whether expansive, atmospheric and ambient electronic music, or more trebly synthy electronic music - the Auteur or the Aeolus?

Hmmmm.I own both and that is a good question as it depends on what you are driving them withā€¦ For the majority I prefer the Auteur but occasionally for specific music it is the Aeolus. Tubed I say Auteur for sure ā€¦ SS COULD be the Aeolus but once again not alwaysā€¦ Sorry as this probably does not help at all.

Had these guys show up today. Waiting to go home so I can give them a listen later :+1:

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Iā€™ve been meaning to write a first impressions for the auteur since I got them five days ago but I find it hard to write down my thoughts of a headphone without listening to them at the same time but I find that I canā€™t get my thoughts down without the headphone pulling me back into just listening to the music. That being said I can give some very basic impressions for now as iā€™ve got around 30 hours of listening done on them so far. Iā€™ll also be comparing them a bit to the Focal Elex as that was my best headphone before the auteur.

Comfort-

The first thing I feel needs mentioning is that for me personally the co-pilot pad is a requirement, I tried listening before putting it on for about 2 min before I felt a pretty bad hot spot forming on the top of my head but after putting the co-pilot pad on I was able to wear them for about 10 hours before having to take them off.

The ear pads arenā€™t as thick as I thought they would be but are very comfortable and I never found them to get uncomfortable during any amount of time I spent listening to the headphone.
Part of this might also have to do with how well they clamp, Which is a tiny bit tighter but exactly what you would want for a heavier headphone.

Build-

For build all I can say is if you havenā€™t seen or held a zmf in person, However nice you imagine the wood to be from images its significantly nicer in person, These are the most luxurious thing iā€™ve seen or touched in person and iā€™ve had the lucky opportunity to drive a Porsche 911 before.

I was also extremely lucky with my set and got some amazing spalting across both sides and a beautiful knot on the left cup.

Sound-

This is the one I canā€™t really be that in-depth about right now but eventually I might be able to go more into detail In a month or two.

The overall characteristic to these headphones for me is silky. It has this feeling of smoothness to all the details and vocals that isnā€™t really like any other headphone iā€™ve had before this one while simultaneously being more detailed than the elex was. Itā€™s not like it doesnā€™t have texture to it either, It just feels to an extent like there is an extra layer of sound being added in.

The low end is also the tightest and deepest Iā€™ve heard on any headphone but is only as strong as the recording makes it, It never feels as if itā€™s coloring the base or intruding on the mix.

The highs are crisp and sparkly but also get some of that soft and silky character I mentioned before without sounding unnatural.

The mids I canā€™t really fully explain but once again have that silky feeling and to me almost sound a tiny bit recessed but not really in a bad way, I feel this gives them a woody characteristic and contributes to the width of the sound stage.

Some of the other characteristics to this headphone is that they sound quite a bit bigger than the elex and have a larger soundstage to elex as well. That being said the shape of sounds in the headphones arenā€™t quite as realistic as the elex but also thatā€™s something focal headphones are known for and only people who have owned or heard focalā€™s can really understand.

The headphone also isnā€™t quite as clear as the elex and I almost want to say not as tonally life like either but the auteurs excel in a different kind of way for a life like sound, Itā€™s hard to explain but the elex has more of a clean sound almost like the instruments are outside without losing any of there tonality from a lack of reflections, The auteur on the other hand feels like your listening to the music without any recording properties in a basement or a pub, It has a soul too it almost like your hearing the music before it even reaches the studio.

Sorry for the slight ramble but my overall conclusion so far for these headphones is that they are absolutely worth the price. Despite this being my most expensive purchase in audio itā€™s the first time Iā€™ve had zero buyerā€™s remorse which I even had some way back when I bought my 6XXā€™s.

For some reference Iā€™m using them with the original JDS EL stack and my favorite bands consist of King Crimson, Portishead and massive attack, I also listened to a lot of classic rock throughout my time with them so far.




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Can anyone give some advice on what secondary pads I should get? Iā€™m pretty sure I donā€™t want anything brighter over the default. I typically donā€™t like anything bright or V-shaped.
But ideally I donā€™t want any loss of clarity/detail either like was suggested with the Eikon pads.

I canā€™t personally give a recommendation since I went with the suede Eikon pads as a second but if you donā€™t get the advice your looking for on this form Iā€™d recommend emailing ZMF. There super nice and Iā€™m sure they would help you find the right pad for your listening preferences.

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Oh my god theyā€™re so beautiful, whatā€™s the wood and finish etc???

So beautiful

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Itā€™s just the stock maple but with a mahogany stain.

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Itā€™s so beautiful, thank you, Iā€™ve been wondering what wood to get the Auetur in. I think this would be it. Love the brass

Thoughts after the first few days:

  • For context Iā€™ve never heard ZMFs before, or anything really TOTL or higher end than Audeze 2Csā€¦
  • Itā€™s really obvious that Zach is a musician, or frequents live shows, they have a ā€œbeing at a good sounding venueā€ quality. Not sure if is the resonance playing with the wood, or the driver itself, but they have this kind of airiness or space about them without loosing detail or feeling ā€œlostā€.
  • They have tremendous bass, itā€™s not like ā€œcampfire cascade bass cannon bone shaking rumbleā€ as much as it is incredibly punchy and very well controlled. They reach down into sub-bass, and without losing the lower midsā€¦nice
  • Vocals are wild. I bought these because I wanted something kind of mid-focused and Focals (Clear/Elex) give me a crazy hotspot after 20 minutes. At very first listen I thought ā€œoh no, these donā€™t have the vocal punch or super forward upper mids of the focalā€™s, iā€™ve made a horrible mistakeā€, but now I prefer these. Itā€™s not as crazy forward as the Elex, but the ā€œrenderingā€, or ā€œpresentationā€ ends up being more appealing. Itā€™s relatively forward sounding, they obviously step out from the lower mids, but they just have clarity to itā€¦ ā€œeuphonyā€ I guess is the ZMF word.
  • Exceedingly comfortable. I donā€™t mind big, or heavy cans if the pads and headband are comfy, but I will tolerate 0 hot spots or ā€œpinchā€ above my ears on the sides of my head. These check every box, and I have no issues with all day (8+hr) use.
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Love to see the first impressions. I canā€™t wait to own my Auteurs one day.

Speaking on the comfort Definitely seek out a suede co-pilot pad and your favourite variant of suede ear pads that combo is like a pillow on your head. Great for winter months. If you like comfort its like a warm blanket on a cold night so comfy.

If you wanna see what that combo looks like:

^OP^

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Custom Hart Audio Cable for my Ambrosia Maple Auteur

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