šŸ”¶ 7HZ Timeless Planar

Yes, including me.

The problem is people are combining imaging and soundstage. It has no depth to soundstage, but across the space in front of you, it has excellent imaging. There is no blobbing or other effect I can detect. Instruments are placed within that wide but shallow stage.

So saying it doesn’t have imaging isn’t correct from my point of view. It simply can’t move those images forward or backward much if at all. To me it has a 2 dimensional soundstage with fairly good imaging across it.

This isn’t a problem for me. It’s wonderfully coherent. Like sitting in the first row for a live orchestra.

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The timeless keeps on sounding like my endgame IEM now. I’m curious how it is gonna sound once it arrives at my place.

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Yes some favourable reviews. Mine are now waiting to be delivered at local courier so it’ll be Monday/Tuesday for me.

I love how close the FR is to the SE846, just with a whole lot more extension, and with Planar speed, I’m really excited about these. Soundstage depth is the only thing that may concern me but I can only try with my own ears.

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I can’t really speak to end game. But this is the most enjoyably tuned planar I have heard. Flaws and all. That’s against over ears and euclid. The fact that it is so inexpensive is just unbelievable.

It has just enough fun and engagement while still retaining planar properties. I wish an over ear planar did this.

On the down side, I am having some mmcx issues. I haven’t determined if its the IEM or the cable.

:frowning:

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Because of the quality control I would likely never order a truly expensive IEM from China.

It seems like the timeless is the best planar IEM now so I have little reason to upgrade for the next year.

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I get it. I understand why you like it and is had just a little more depth I probably give it a run. Let’s say it hit poor sounds raging and since I can not hear it without buying it I probably never will hear it. You never know I might like it. There are some tracks having little depth and I do listen to those. I was a prime potential buyer.I have had many planar speakers. I only own one set of headphones and those are Sundaras. Enjoy them !

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What do you call truly expensive :man_shrugging:t2:

More then 400€.

Damn, that means Thie’s tribrid family is nothing.

I have had had the Timeless for about two weeks and have been getting used to their sound.

Today I decided to compare them to the only other I have (SA6) using two albums (Wish You Were Here and Dark Side of the Moon), I found that the Timeless was narrow, but the detail was very good in comparison. I do like what the Timeless give, but I do mis the separation that I get from the SA6. Saying that, I am aware that they are different technologies and they bring different qualities to the enjoyment of listening to music.

I thought I would compare this also to the only Planar headphone I own (Ananda (2020 Revision)). This just showed me what the Timeless brought to the party, but also showed their shortcomings.

I am pleased that I have these and do not regret getting them.

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So more about the imaging…

I think the poor imaging is due to the following reasons in tandem:

  1. Large diaphragm

  2. The large diaphragm is in very close proximity to the eardrum. (And squeezed through smaller nozzle)

  3. Diaphragm moves uniformly as it is a Planar.

This creates a very large, very up close view of large images, so large the contours of each image are lost and the imaging that you can detect becomes the immediate texture in the center of the image.

Each note is like a very high resolution picture that you’ve zoomed in on and can’t see the corners of.

It is 2D for sure.

On the topic of dimensional sound reproduction, what are the most 3D sounding IEMs?

I’ve heard Mest OG & MK2, EJ07 and Tea are extraordinary in their respective price bracket.

Are there any other noteworthy contenders?

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Those are the stand outs for sure.

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BGVP also has them, with another halving of the price, about $2.5 per pair. Even model numbers are pretty similar to Acoustune ones. Though havent tried them also.

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Does Timeless have better soundstage and imaging than Tin P1 or P2 btw? If it’s already mentioned please let me know the link.

No

The Timeless has better tonality, timbre and more energy efficient, but technicalities are better on the P1. The Timeless is the one I would recommend over the P1 (due to how poorly tuned the P1 is) BUT, if you can use PEQ, the P1 is the better iem (except the timbre which is still slightly better on the Timeless). (The PEQ preset for the P1 is in my database.)

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Rip, the Timeless got slaughtered.

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Damn, A+ rank?

The Timeless?