đŸ”¶ 7HZ Timeless Planar

Is planar sensitive to the surrounding air volume like dynamic driver, or is it more like BA?

It sits between DD and BA. Planar will move more air than BA but less than DD. As with all generalizations there may be exceptions. The timeless is vented but nowhere near as much as the Zen.

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Just for fun HZ’s rocking a XINHS gold and silver plated Litz copper cable with gunmetal ancillaries
nightclub here we come :star_struck:


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That looks DOPE :fire:

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The airplane containing my Timeless has just arrived in my country. Let’s hope for the best this week.

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My first discovery about this set is it’s probably the most tip dependent set I have, all my tips fit well but damn each set make a big difference in the reply :thinking:

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Gonna make these guy’s :sweat: too


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First post here. Read most of this thread. I have the Sundara which I really like but they make my ears too warm too quickly. I ordered the Timeless to see if I could get somewhat of the same planar feeling just as in-ears. What can I say - I have re-listened to a lot of music that I haven’t listened to for ages (and a lot of new stuff too) - and kinda re-lived it. If a pair of headphones/IEM’s can do that it’s probably the biggest praise I can think of. The soundstage/imaging thing that has been mentioned doesn’t bother me. The amount of bass would normally be too much for me but - but I find myself just liking it on the Timeless since the low end on these is soo good


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I concur. The narrow bore tips emphasize the bass. The wide bore seriously let the upper mids/treble shine. This is also the first set that the final e worked on for me. Never had good luck with them.

I obtained more sizes and tips since exchanging them. Can’t wait to try some more options. My primary thing is long term wear. Still haven’t found tips that allow all day wear for me.

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I liked the Spirals as they gave me a Z1R treble hit but killed the bass, Spin145’s were just a no, no with this set, so settled with my go to Sony EP-EX10A’s a great allrounder and softer than a soft thing
I’ve got E’s so I’ll try them too :smiley: :beers:

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If you’re feeling brave, remove the grills and foam and these beauties shift some proper low end air.
Found my Symbio tips sound best but will be casting my own custom tips shortly to hear them unadulterated.

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Wondered why they came with a spare set of grills, do they just pop out with a set of fine tip tweezers?

yes. one broke in my trial run of casting custom tips so i pulled the other out gently with a needle.
The foam seems to be stuck to the grills so it came out in a single piece.
I may replace the grills just to stop muck getting in them.

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Spirals and sedna earfit were awesome but had just little enough grip to slide out sometimes. Crystals do better for me in the slide area but need more careful sizing.

I also love the cp145. The bass they add works fine for me. But it’s also not needed at all. And they tone down the shouty a bit as well. Their shape seems to help with staying in as well as overall comfort. Cp100+ is similar.

Still playing with them. Will play more when the new set arrives. Xelastec may end up being the winner for long listening sessions.

The biggest problem I have with smaller/lighter iems like zen and timeless is adjusting because they move. It’s a constant struggle. Dusk plants themselves in my ear and don’t move with xelastec.

Everything else moves and movement generates irritation over time.

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The foamies that came with my Sony XM4 are absolutely brilliant comfort-wise. The first few days I had them in for 10+ hour sessions and I’m positive I could have held them in my ears for over 24 hours easily. I moved to SpinFits CP360 because the foams reduced the treble too much; the XM4 being very darky tuned already.

drftr

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Agree
sound better without foam

I actually struggle with foam. In theory, for long listening, they would work well. In practice, I have two flaws:

  1. every full foam tip has an adjustment period as it settles. Comply is really long and dekoni is shorter. During this time I feel and hear the material. Can be annoying. If in and out a lot, it’s a no-go.

  2. they also all have a texture that touches my skin. This can be good for grip and bad for irritation/itch. No/go for in/out.

Symbio w hybrid are interesting. I probably need a size smaller as the silicon covering ends up wanting to pop out. They would have to be sized carefully and I just haven’t done that yet. The combination is a touch too stiff so I would need a deeper insertion with smaller tips.

Still haven’t tried them all. Gotta check my tipedex. :wink:

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I notice that when using SpinFits my left ear is quite successful in slowly pushing them out of my ear - or so it feels as it never really happens. This happens with different tip sizes, so I wondered if it’s the thicker nozzle my left ear canal doesn’t like, or that I have to go back to foam, or maybe try to find a grippier silicone one. But since all this stuff has to be sent to Mexico while they’re not cheap in the first place, this is going to be too expensive for the IEMs. Hoping for better times with new IEMs that cure all my problems (albeit adding to one because of that
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drftr

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Pretty much agree 100% with this comparison


If you have a diverse library like me and you love planar’s then you need both these sets in your life :+1:

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