🔶 7HZ Timeless Planar

Ohmboy · October 12, 2021, 3:38pm

I liked the Spirals as they gave me a Z1R treble hit but killed the bass, Spin145’s were just a no, no with this set, so settled with my go to Sony EP-EX10A’s a great allrounder and softer than a soft thing…I’ve got E’s so I’ll try them too

DaveB · October 12, 2021, 3:40pm

If you’re feeling brave, remove the grills and foam and these beauties shift some proper low end air.
Found my Symbio tips sound best but will be casting my own custom tips shortly to hear them unadulterated.

Ohmboy · October 12, 2021, 3:54pm

Wondered why they came with a spare set of grills, do they just pop out with a set of fine tip tweezers?

DaveB · October 12, 2021, 4:04pm

yes. one broke in my trial run of casting custom tips so i pulled the other out gently with a needle.
The foam seems to be stuck to the grills so it came out in a single piece.
I may replace the grills just to stop muck getting in them.

Dynamic · October 12, 2021, 4:36pm

Spirals and sedna earfit were awesome but had just little enough grip to slide out sometimes. Crystals do better for me in the slide area but need more careful sizing.

I also love the cp145. The bass they add works fine for me. But it’s also not needed at all. And they tone down the shouty a bit as well. Their shape seems to help with staying in as well as overall comfort. Cp100+ is similar.

Still playing with them. Will play more when the new set arrives. Xelastec may end up being the winner for long listening sessions.

The biggest problem I have with smaller/lighter iems like zen and timeless is adjusting because they move. It’s a constant struggle. Dusk plants themselves in my ear and don’t move with xelastec.

Everything else moves and movement generates irritation over time.

drftr · October 12, 2021, 4:47pm

The foamies that came with my Sony XM4 are absolutely brilliant comfort-wise. The first few days I had them in for 10+ hour sessions and I’m positive I could have held them in my ears for over 24 hours easily. I moved to SpinFits CP360 because the foams reduced the treble too much; the XM4 being very darky tuned already.

drftr

candra_wijaya1 · October 12, 2021, 4:56pm

Agree…sound better without foam

Dynamic · October 12, 2021, 5:00pm

I actually struggle with foam. In theory, for long listening, they would work well. In practice, I have two flaws:

every full foam tip has an adjustment period as it settles. Comply is really long and dekoni is shorter. During this time I feel and hear the material. Can be annoying. If in and out a lot, it’s a no-go.
they also all have a texture that touches my skin. This can be good for grip and bad for irritation/itch. No/go for in/out.

Symbio w hybrid are interesting. I probably need a size smaller as the silicon covering ends up wanting to pop out. They would have to be sized carefully and I just haven’t done that yet. The combination is a touch too stiff so I would need a deeper insertion with smaller tips.

Still haven’t tried them all. Gotta check my tipedex.

drftr · October 12, 2021, 5:24pm

I notice that when using SpinFits my left ear is quite successful in slowly pushing them out of my ear - or so it feels as it never really happens. This happens with different tip sizes, so I wondered if it’s the thicker nozzle my left ear canal doesn’t like, or that I have to go back to foam, or maybe try to find a grippier silicone one. But since all this stuff has to be sent to Mexico while they’re not cheap in the first place, this is going to be too expensive for the IEMs. Hoping for better times with new IEMs that cure all my problems (albeit adding to one because of that…).

drftr

sonad · October 13, 2021, 12:05am

Look who’s on top of @hawaiibadboy 's A+ list

Ohmboy · October 13, 2021, 4:01am

Pretty much agree 100% with this comparison…

If you have a diverse library like me and you love planar’s then you need both these sets in your life

darkgod5 · October 13, 2021, 6:30am

I’m getting deja vu here. Are you the same user who was told (at length) that cranking up 20 kHz by so much dB at best does nothing and at worst leads to distortion (especially without enough negative compensatory preamp and especially with IEMs)?

darkgod5 · October 13, 2021, 6:31am

Yeah. Crin’s first impressions were really good. I hope he does at least a mini-review instead of just giving it a grade.

sonad · October 13, 2021, 7:03am

Well, he did promise to make a review but, who knows if it will every happen given the number of items he had to work on. Either way, time will tell.

Rcayn · October 13, 2021, 7:12am

Correct. It’s specifically the Timeless that not only can handle but also benefits from such an extreme boost, would not recommend with most other IEMs.

Plex_Flex · October 13, 2021, 7:48am

I’m gonna experiment with a lot of EQ on this IEM.

Shinidoshi · October 13, 2021, 7:56am

I’m not too keen on IEM anatomy, but what is the size of the nozzle(?) and which tips can they fit?

Rcayn · October 13, 2021, 8:34am

Nozzle is regular average size. Shouldn’t be any problems!

lilhm · October 13, 2021, 10:14am

Are you trolling? What improvement would a 20khz boost bring? Are you 1 year old? I’d bet that there isn’t a single person here who can hear 20khz…

Only way this makes any sense at all is by choosing a low q value, but you didn’t specify that.

Rcayn · October 13, 2021, 10:56am

You’re right, I didn’t specify. I put the Q value at 1.5 or 2.