đŸ”¶ 7HZ Timeless Planar

Michael De Lazzer claims you need serious power like 1W to get most of these so what are you guys using to deliver such power to Timeless ? MT-604 will be enough or better to stay away from tubes for IEMs ?

You dont need much power for the timeless. Maybe 20% more then single DD IEMs.

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Qudelix 5k is great. Apple dongle works well enough.

Interestingly, the dx3 pro+ didn’t do it. It struggles with stuff under 32 ohms apparently. Maybe that guy has an amp like that.

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Im sure, my friend found it in a 7hz topic(maybe discord).
It is said that there is not so much difference, specifically the person who took the photos does not hear the sound of someone else, but the space, soundstage of the first generation seems more spacious.

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Thoughts ?

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That doesn’t make any sense to me
 lower impedance is easier to drive
 not harder. Did you turn on high gain?
Some Amps don’t work well with IEMs in the sense, that they have a noise floor or distortions, if the outputimpedance of the amp is bigger then 1/8 of the headphone/iem impedance. But since the DX3Pro+ has 0.1 ohm output impedance, it is basically built for low impedance stuff (in contrast to the 10 ohm of the non-plus)

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It didn’t to me either but it’s something that can happen. I started a thread on here about it. Apparently some amps can’t deliver their power into low ohm loads. The dx3 pro+ is one of those. The power was less than my qudelix in those scenarios.

Amir on ASR confirmed it. Since I bought it largely for sensitive IEMs, it went back instantly. Read the part of his review about power delivery under 32 ohms.

I haven’t looked into the why of this problem. And, technically, it works fine, but I was expecting micro signature level power and got a gimped Qudelix instead.

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For reference: high gain, full volume, on my ears. And I am not dead.

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Thanks for the info and reference. Seems to check out, which is suprising to me. Good thing you could return it. What is the point of Topping marketing their low impedance output, if they can’t handle low impedance loads? As much as Amir praises those devices, to me it seems that they always come with a catch
 one device destroyed headphones, another devices gets a stealth revision with worse specs than the original version reviewed and recommended by amir, and this one is unable to handle low impedance loads


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I agree. My he6se was on the a90 when it died. I am starting to think it wasn’t coincidence.

The thing that annoys me is the topping products are among the few I have had where I didn’t have some stupid failures. Example, the sp200/m200 just randomly dropped signal regularly. The xduoo ta-30 (which I liked a lot) came with a bad tube. The first micro signature routinely played static. It was like I couldn’t get a good experience out of box.

The old dx3 and a90/d90 stack behaved flawlessly otherwise.

This showed up today, DHL was pleasantly ahead of schedule. When I got the notice that it was on it way, 4 days ago, they said Nov 16th, so 9 days ahead of schedule, surprisingly good.

I am still working through the headphone test playlist, but so far I am pretty impressed. It is odd to have that tight low impact sound in an IEM. I need to mess around with the ear tips, more but other that changing to one that fit, I am completely stock. If 7Hz is reading this, that cable is sexy, I would buy more of those.

What are the blue tips? other than just sexy ?

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What are the tip cases? Did they come with it?

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They came with it, there are three different sets of tips from what I can tell. It also came with two extra filters, but I am pretty sure they are the same.

The white ones on the left are very weird, almost no curve to the sides, and they are very flimsy.

Edit - also my total time from order on Linsoul to delivery in SoCal was 13 days.

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Mine didn’t. I feel 
 fine. These things are spectacular. :wink:

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Mine didn’t either just tips in plastic bags however other tips I have did, I don’t really use them tbh


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The plastic boxes are fine, they were a bit thicker ( taller ? ) than the boxes the cheap Link Dream foams I got on Amazon earlier this year. I am with you, I started with a pair, but I already switched the CP100+ and prefer them. I figure there will be Final Series E test in the next couple days too.

I am keeping the tips in the boxes right now, but I will probably merge them into the larger ear tip boxes. I recently split them up and have foam and TWS in a box, and the IEM tips in another. That and cables are the other two sub hobbies tucked into this one.

If I am indecisive and travelling, I use a Final Series E box, since the are the perfect small, holds five pairs size.

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You got the older revision. Has been proved somewhere in the above posts. 7hz changed tips, filter and dampening. Seems to affect treble but the only guy I know that has both says they are pretty close, altho they graph slight different.

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Just got mine today and the filters look like the ‘gen 1’ mentioned above. First thing to note is that the sound
 very different. idk good different or bad different but its 
different.
Second thing I noted is my left has noticeably louder vocal frequency response than the right side, not enough that music sounds off but enough that tv shows with a character talking in center frame sounds like they’re coming from just out of frame left. very uncool but more perceptible with cp100 than stock tips. Might just be an insertion technique problem due to the weird shape.
For now just slapping some burn-in tracks and gonna try them again later.

ordered 16 oct shipped 30 oct received 8 nov for those that care

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Well, I have had two older versions then. Maybe time to order a third! On 11/11. :wink:

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Any channel imbalance I had was resolved with more burn-in.

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