Woah! To each their own then. I think you would after hearing the MEST MKII or even the Mangird Tea with its 3D/holographic stage.
As I said, I would liken the stage and imaging capabilities of Timeless to that of a Sennheiser 600 series headphone which is well known as 3 blob stage.
Comparison to what I do have(reffering to the device in question as compared to the Timeless):
SR80e - the Grados are much less resolving, wider, and worse imaging. Almost like there is more of a gap in the center.
4XX (with ZMF perforated lambskin pads) - beyond the higher demand for power, and the Timeless being a noticeable bit cleaner, thisā¦ was a bit closer of a call. Wider, and still very distinct impacts of the drum, but actually lost a little bit in the center. I had to listen to that section a few times to make sure I wasnāt just hearing things. It almost sounded like the drummer fell into the back at dead center before jumping right back.
m40x (with ZMF oval angled sheepskins) - Less definition to the location, narrower soundstage. Exact center, right and left where where there seemed to be the clearest points of impact, but nothing as clean and precise.
5XX - ohhhhhhhā¦ That wasā¦ More powa and a wider soundstage, but ohhhhhā¦ That was somethingā¦ I had to keep switching back and forth, as it was slightly different, but not in a way that I think I could describe, and neither one in a bad way.
Dekoni Blue (balance modded using Dekoni Platinum non-angled pads) - Definately needs that Fostex power, much deeper hitting bass (not brain rattling, but a harder punch), not as clean, a bit wider and worse imaging. Not that it couldnāt follow along, just the impacts where less defined.
Edit: to be clear, I do not think this is a 5XX in mobile form. The Timeless fits much better as an all rounder, while having slightly narrower sound stage. I also not not think the 5XX is bad at imaging. At all. Neither is the Timeless. A bit weird, maybe, but not bad.
I just did back to back listening between the Tea, Sundara, and TYGR300R.
Sundara definitely outclasses the other two in just about everything, listening to the drum solo is incredible on them. While the Sundara doesnāt have a huge soundstage, itās wide enough to really visualize it and the imaging is great.
Teas and TYGR were about on par with each other for imaging with the Tea being the most closed in feeling.
Not that this helps much as you donāt have any of these and I donāt have any of the headphones you referenced on hand, but Iām guessing the 5xx is closer to the Sundara.
I simplified the comments a little, but more people use EQ or bassboost for the lows, and tips for ātame the highsā. whatever.
Keep the Mele and sell the Timeless
Youāre saying that about the hd600?..intimate soundstage yes but one of the best HPās of all time?..it really depends on what youāre looking forā¦ horses for courses same with sets Iām afraid
I agree, but I also think it comes down to the music you listen to. I donāt think the 6xx is great for EDM, Metal, most hip hop/rap, etc. Itās excellent for vocal focused music though.
Thatās something I would have to leave to someone else, as I havenāt heard them before.
DMS did compare them to the Sundara in his review, though he didnāt seem to touch on imaging comparison
Zeos did compare to the Sundaraā¦ And while I usually agree with him, I donāt totally agree with him on how the 5XX sounds
Thereās always going to be sets that outclass others at everything. This is exactly why I personally feel there is no one perfect set earphones/headphones.
Couldnāt agree more about the 6XX being one of the very best headphones for vocals, especially on tubes. I prefer it for vocals even vs my VOCAL Clear MG which is known to be great for vocals as well.
In addition, I donāt really like this comparing headphones to IEMs thing weāre starting. I probably started it attempting to explaining the Timelessā stage. My bad.
True, Headphones vs. IEMās was something I was very interested in when I first got into the hobby.
Thereās quite a few differences that are not comparable between the two, namely use case (One being limited to home use for the most part, the other much more versatile).
In terms of sound qualities, I think you can def compare the two though. For me personally, it goes Open back > IEM > Closed back. Thereās certain things each does better at and each individual headphone/IEM makes all the difference of course, but thatās my general preference.
Some wine sellers, in France, organize some wine degustation sessions. You pay, letās say, 80ā¬ for a session ,and you get to taste different wines, differents flavors and all, and youāre guided by a professional seller to help you recognize it.
These sellers make this service available because many people feel they lack the experience/knowledge to judge au good/bad wine.
I wish the same thing come to mind for a sound seller: you come in his store with some friedns and/or aother audiophiles, and the sellers makes you test/taste different flavors of sound. That would just be so great to educate people about sound, and would be a good way to advertise for the seller. I donāt know why it has never been done (to my knowledge at least).