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Yeah, the HD600 is insanely improved by a tube amp. I got into this hobby after picking up an amp for my HD6xx (essentially 650s) after running it from my pc headphone jack with no amp for 2 years and not seeing what all the fuss was about. Adding an amp changed everything. I wasnā€™t much of a fan to begin with, so Iā€™m glad I can stop watching his videos. Thatā€™s just willful ignorance

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I mean the 600 and 650 are famous for scaling with better amps lol. Not many people I know would argue against the 600/650 scaling

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I donā€™t pay much attention to graphs for this reason. If your graph tells you the 6xx sounds identical from phone to amp and you donā€™t bother listening for yourself, then youā€™ll miss out on a lot of headphones. If I hear something that sounds really off to me, Iā€™ll look at a graph to try to see whatā€™s happening but thatā€™s about it. If I relied on graphs alone, Iā€™d own a lot of headphones I disliked, and would have missed out on many more I love

Yeah I pretty much donā€™t really focus on graphs or measurements at all, as imo it doesnā€™t really accurately poetry how a headphone will sound on your head (also kinda takes the enjoyment out of the hobby if you focus on measurements for me at least). I just take the headphone at face value

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I donā€™t often EQ because I donā€™t have a preferred sound sig in the sense that Iā€™m not treble sensitive, and donā€™t exclusively seek bass heavy cans because I listen to all types of music. I can see looking at graphs if you needed a specific FR for your taste, but I like the unique sound every headphone gives off for the most part, as long as it doesnā€™t completely eliminate part of the audible spectrum. I kind of wish I only liked one FR though, as Iā€™d have saved a lot of money over the years if I did

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^^^ X2 never EQ hereā€¦did mess with it but I came to the same conclusionā€¦

:+1:

I really only eq for when I do studio work, and otherwise itā€™s pretty much just flat or a slight consistent bump in the bass

I really think most EQā€™ers are frustrated studio guyā€™s in the wrong job? lmao

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Well I would almost say eq for music production and mastering is necessarily lol, I just donā€™t like to eq headphones

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Exactly :+1:ā€¦a studio has all the tech to provide a sound the artist and the production crew are happy with, if your headphones are disappointing then maybe your headphone choice if dodgy?

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So I do eq to flat line for headphones when mastering, but that being said, I do that with some headphones and not others. I donā€™t do it to correct the headphone, just modify it so itā€™s more useful to me in that senario. I donā€™t have anything against people who eq, as it can be a great way to get a headphone sounding how you like it, I just personally donā€™t do it for music enjoyment

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Should I go shoot myself or do I have to do it hara kiri? lol

Iā€™m not a frustrated studio guy. Iā€™m a frustrated classical musician. I just want a tuba to sound like a tuba and a flugelhorn to sound like a flugelhorn.

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Well thereā€™s a debate and a half (might need to start a new thread mate?) lolā€¦What amp and what tubes?..can a tube amp replicate an ss studio mastered recording???

Well I personally use a decent amount of tube electronics in my mastering chain, if that means anything lol (as do alot of other engineers I know)

So why canā€™t #MaynardGK make ā€œa tuba to sound like a tuba and a flugelhorn to sound like a flugelhornā€?..

Honestly I am a bit confused lol, but I think GK is mainly saying he uses eq with his headphones to get it to sound correct for him and itā€™s just fine (at least thatā€™s what I think)

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Yep no argument hereā€¦I guess I donā€™t listen to stuff in a clinical studio environmentā€¦either live or through mostly ear driven devicesā€¦live wise a tuba, trumpet or sax will sound different in different in venues and environments imoā€¦so who holds ace card when it comes to ā€œthat Soundā€ā€¦when we all enjoy the music, kit and hobby?

Well I mean I also canā€™t say a ton because I rarely master music for an artist, itā€™s more for business/commercial work, so I donā€™t have a ton of experience mastering something like an orchestra

Sorry to spark confusion but not clear what was confusing. Not aware of any non-DSP headphone with a sufficiently neutral FR for my needs. So far as I can tell the technology simply isnā€™t there yet. Since FR accuracy is important to me, I need to roll my own.

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Yeah, and eq is a great way to do so if you feel the need to