You can probably find a serial number on Google Pictures.
Would it be wasteful to get an LCD-X if one has an Asgard 3? Or would I need to upgrade the amp?
LCD Xâs are kinda easy to drive. You dont need a powerful amp for them. I would look at how it pairs.
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For what itâs worth, it sounds good off of the A3. I have mine paired with a BF2, so itâs a warm signature which can be good for the Xâs. The A3 has plenty of power for them as well. It holds up surprisingly well with my other amps which are the Liquid Platinum, Matrix HPA-3B, and RNHP. I leave the A3 and RNHP on all the time, and it does sound good. Itâs a really good amp for the price, hope this helps!
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Hello guys, what headphone stand are you using for your LCDs? I really like Master and Dynamic one, but I am little bit worried about the headband. Do you have any experiences with that?
I used the Silverstone headphone stand. I can put 2 headphones on it and it has a nice wide headband rest.
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Just got my LCD-X coming from a LCD2C and wow! What an awesome upgrage!
I have not yet read this entire thread, but did you guys know you can email Audezeâs customer support and ask for the frequency response graph for your specific unit? Just send them your serial number and that is it, they replied me within 2 hours with mine.
After some EQ these are the best headphones i have heard to date, i prefer them over my Focal Clears and it is not even close.
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So after listening to the LCD-X for a few hours i have to say i really like these, the only thing i wish i had a bit more is bass slam / punch. I am comparing it to a Fostex X00 Ebony though, lol, so not really fair.
Having said that, i just finished reading the thread and someone suggested that a Schiit Asgard 3 would deliver more slam.
I am currently powering my LCD-X with a Schiit Modi 3+ and a Schiit Magni Heresy, from your experience would a different amp really make an audible difference in the bass slam / punch? If yes, what would be the best one for that under $300?
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Like I said, you really should begin updating your source gear with the level of transducers you already own. No offense but youâve got some very entry level stuff there for your amp/dac and a few possible endgame headphones and IEMs.
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I am considering that but i read just so many posts from people with much more experience than i have saying that i would not hear a significant improvement over my current stack, the Heresy delivers 2.4W @ 32ohms which should be sufficient for 90% of the headphones out there.
Others like yourself donât believe that and i am all ears, but keep in mind i am not looking for changes in soundstage, detail retrieval, instrument separation, none of that. What i am curious about is if a different stack would deliver a more powerful punch and slam.
This thing about dacs and amps is the most difficult one for me to figure out, i read in a thread someone saying that the Heresy is highly compressed (lacks dynamics), then i asked in my own thread about that and 99% of the replies said that no, that is BS, the Heresy is not compressed and people who say that are just trying to justify the fact that they spent thousands of dollars in their stack.
I may have to just purchase something and try it myself, that is why i want to figure out which amp would deliver that extra bass slam, if anyâŠ
EDIT: I most definitively reached endgame for both headphones and IEMs at this point, i 100% found what i was looking for, but maybe they could deliver ever better sound?
Itâs just like the headphones. You have to take into consideration that everyone values different things and people are listening to widely very different music. Itâs your personal voyage to take! Thatâs why this is a hobby. It can be never ending.
Someone who listens to pop or extreme metal may not understand what dynamics are let alone what good dynamics are. Iâd hope someone who specializes in classical would have a much better understanding as well as being a timbre expert.
Some people say dacs only matter up until a certain price point and then after that, it doesnât matter. I disagree. Iâve heard drastic differences in how the music is portrayed with different dacs.
Amps are the same thing, although I feel most people would agree that the amp will make the most audible difference.
In my experience, the scariest thing I found with a certain amp and dac I owned was that they actually relaxed the high end on my music considerably. This probably was done on purpose to make the listening experience more enjoyable and less harsh, but for someone whoâs goal it is to be able to hear the music as perfectly as possible with as much dynamic range, fully extended frequencies and detail as possible to be able to properly judge how the transducer is actually performing, this was the complete opposite of my goal. Even though the gear was HIGHLY suggested from individuals from this forum. It was the WORST possible choice for me personally.
I suggest finding a source that you know is as uncolored as possible to use as a baseline standard. For me, it is my Universal Apollo professional audio interface designed for professional audio recording. It gave me a foundation for what neutral sounds like. Maybe it could be a set of professional monitoring speakers. But you have to have a source you trust. Once you know what neutral sounds like, if you begin playing with source gear, you can then decipher what that gear is doing to the neutral sound signature. If itâs for listening enjoyment, you can go crazy trying to pair your headphones and IEMs up with synergies to work off the strengths or weaknesses of both.
If you start seriously considering your source gear and changing things up, now youâre getting into the fun stuff of this hobby! Enjoy the ride.
The other thing you should have already considered hopefully is your music sources. Iâve been building a large library of 24 and 16 bit flac files. If your library consists of mp3s compressed at ant of the mp3 bit rates, 320, 256, 128, with better and better source gear and better transducers, youâll easily be able to tell the poorer quality of the recordings. Always try to obtain the best quality sources of your music as possible if youâre an audiophile. Thereâs no point in buying any of this higher end gear if the quality of your music is poor to begin with.
For slam and listening enjoyment, you actually might want to think about getting a good tube amp. But I wouldnât pair it with the LCD X. Tubes work well with dynamics. With a planar, you normally want a solid state amp or at least a hybrid. Do your research first though as to what would pair well with it.
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If you are ok with EQ you could try that before anything else and see if something like a 4-6 db bass shelf gets you closer to the ebony. Like you said it is a little unfair to compare in that regard because the Fostex x00 are known for their bass punch. I would recommend trying eq first before splurging on source gear and see if it helps.
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Yep that is good advice, i always EQ my gear so that was the first thing i did. The bass quantity is all there after EQ but the character is totally different from the Fostex. It has presence, it rumbles, but it does not punch as hard.
I am trying to figure out if a different amp can help change the way the bass is delivered (which i kind of doubt).
An amp wonât change it drastically. I use my LCDXs with mangi 3, EL2, 887, 788, and a SA1. The biggest difference I hear is from the type of music Iâm listening too. Rap and hip-hop have huge bass compared to metal, rock and classic rock. I would enjoy them and when you want a different sound signature then Iâd start looking to different gear but really they will sound great on almost anything.
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I think adding a Schiit Loki+ would be the best and most cost effective way if getting the base boost you want if you donât want to eq with software. The other option is getting an iFi Zen Can. The bass boost is very well done and elevates it by about 2db and doesnât reach into the mids. Ifi also has other more expensive amps with this feature.
I have a Schiit Jotenheim 2 and I canât really say I notice elevated bass slam. Itâs definitely warmer sounding in that region but that isnât always a desired thing.
I am actually 100% comfortable with software EQ, i doubt any hardware EQ can achieve what i have in EQ APO.
As i said earlier i am intrigued about a comment i read somewhere in this thread, i think it was @M0N who suggested the Asgard 3 would have more slam? Not sure if he meant that without EQ, as in either a different amp or EQ.
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Anyone know if the 2021 revisions still have the same synergy with the bf2 + rnhp signsl chain?
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Normally when someone refers to âslamâ itâs not an EQ thing; but rather a headphone+amp thing. The Asgard 3 is a great option for almost everything and it most likely will deliver better slam than the Heresy. Or at the very least, it will give you a taste of something different. The Asgard 3 is pretty distinct sounding compared to amps like the Heresy.
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Nice, i really want to try something that is actually different, and if it can be different + have more slam than that is what i am looking for. Some people keep saying that anything more expensive than the Heresy in terms of amps will just sound the same except valves of courseâŠ
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Guys, what do you make of the LCD-Xâs weight and its suitability for long sessions?
I frequently have headphones on my head all day. When I read descriptions of the LCD-Xâs sound, I think âHoly cow I want that!â But then I remember how easy it was to wear HD-600s all day, and how much I notice the difference between my DT880s and my Audeze EL-8C, weight-wise. The EL-8C, per the Audeze website, is 540 grams. Itâs not too much, but it feels like itâs getting close. I notice the weight and am reluctant to go for anything heavier. The LCD-X weighs in at 612g.
Is the LCD-X really only good for a few hours, tops? (I realize this is a subjective thing, but still worth asking).