yeah definitely excited to spend some time with them and try the other pads as well. For me all the gear I end up keeping there is just something about it that makes really appreciate it. For instance Iām listening to my IT03ās at work right now and when I hear the bass thump it reminds me how much i like them. Hopefully Iāll find that something with an extended session with the nighthawks. What is your other Keeper?
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HD650ā¦ my first love 
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haha totally understand. I loved my 6XXās and was the first piece i thought I would never sell. Then a few weeks later a pair of 660s went up for super cheap. was mostly just curious how much an āupgradeā it was and if I could go back Iād probably just stick with the 6XX and save money. But I do think I will always have something from the 600 family in my collection.
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Iām always amazed by people who donāt find it, maybe āoffensiveā is the wrong word but weird lol with first impressions anyways
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whatās ur other keeper can? Iām the same btw, only headphones I use r these and technically the Koss ksc75
nevermind lol
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Well I will say I only spent about 20 minutes with them so far. I also tend to adjust pretty slowly to new sounds even on gear I love. The only piece I have that wowād me on the first listen was my purplehearts and that is entirely due to the bass impact.
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The hawks can get kinda near the bass performance of the ph with a powerful amp, suede pads, and a bit of eq
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would you consider the el amp II a powerful amp? I donāt necessarily need/want them to be bass canons although i would be lying to say I didnāt love a good bass response. Stock with the pleather pads I found the bass to be acceptable, but couldnāt hurt to have more. I donāt mess too much with eq but that is entirely due to not knowing what Iām doing
Oh yeah you are just fine, thatās a sweet amp. Also do try out the suede, itās a pretty different experience imo (personally I much prefer the suede)
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Try the other pads 
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Lol not beating around the bush are we
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we wonāt have any of that here mon
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Easy recommend if more bass is wanted lol
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haha I fully intend to give both pads a good listening session
although this may have skewed me to start with the suede
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Oh yeah, the suede is the way to go for sure.
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the pads are for sure, very different
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Hi all.
Been using my hawks for a couple days now and have fallen in love with the sound signature.
The bass satisfies me and the treble doesnāt send daggers into my ear drums like a lot of headphones; No harsh sibilance. Itās great.
The only qualm I have is that, since Iām new to hifi, I think I donāt prefer suspension straps in my headphones. I find that I am not able to move my head around without it adjusting and bringing them up on my head, and I tend to like more of a clamping force. I tried the 58x Jubilees and liked the sound okay (not nearly as good as the hawks) but they were much too small for my giant ass head.
Does anyone have any recommendation for fixes? Does a headphone exist that has a comparable sound to the nighthawk carbons but doesnāt use a suspension strap? (my budget is $400)
Thanks
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Iād suggest finding a way to secure the strap where you need it so it is not longer able to adjust
Probably not lol
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You could try and give more strength by grabbing something that wrapped around the headband (check out the focal clear thread to see what I am talking about). That way it will cause the headband to be more taught and more secure I would think
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