Maybe the black 250ohm or the Tygr are for me cuz the 880 600ohm is pretty siblant
At first I thought that I wouldnât mind the siblance but once I notice it i kept noticing it more and more. Then something like Burn by Ellie Goulding comes on and it becomes unbearable.
From memory, My current pair arenât as sibilant as the grey 600ohm versions
I donât think the 880âs are going to shine with these genre tbh lol⊠extreme metal for obvious reasons and hip hop because at least ime treble can be a little harsh to begin with sometimes (big ready to die comes to mind)
Iâm wondering which tracks youâre hearing distortion and sibilance on? Also the format of the tracks? Iâm not home to test but Iâd like to know if I can hear the same things.
The Beyerâs are pretty revealing, and that song has a decent amount of sibilance baked in, itâs just giving you whatâs already in the track in this case
It was only a comparison. I donât actually find the dt880 to be too sibilant. Call Tickeron by Run the Jewels Is the track I noticed the distortion the most. My pair doesnât distort at all.
The stock pads on my pair in comparison to the gray pads has a warmer tone to it. When I swapped the gray pads on it becomes that neutral bright signature that we are all familiar with. With the gray pads on it doesnât punch as hard and dig as deep as the stock black pads. This also makes the treble sound a bit more forward and on poor recordings pretty harsh. But with the stock pads I donât have that issue.
Iâve always enjoyed the way the dt880 sounded with electric guitars. It has that, for the lack of a better word, crunch to it combined with the slight elevation in the upper bass/low mids region which also gave the guitars a bit of weight. It wasnât too little, It wasnât too much, It was just right.
The black version has that but now add more slam, better extension in the bass, slightly reduced treble sharpness. These sound perfect to me
Okay right on⊠this is kind of what I thought you meant with your bold statement above lol⊠doing poorly with poorly recorded treble isnât surprising as itâs pretty detailed and revealing⊠honestly donât listen to bass heavy tracks like rtj on these but Iâll give it a go when I get a chance. Thanks for elaborating
The dt880s are worth it if you have a good compliment for it, like a planar with some slam. I usually go back and forth with edition xx on the basx100 and the 880s on the darkvoice. XX is awesome for when i wanna her rock,edm, and hip hop, and dt880 is great for instrumental,jazz, acoustic, and some live music. Dt880 is just too detailed/revealing and bass light for heavier tracks but they are so good on the lighter end stuff. That being said, the xx are a just a better all rounder, and being 2-3 times the price of the dt880 i would expect that. I have yet to really hear any distortion on the dt880s but maybe if i listened to distorted guitars and bass guitars using a big muff pedal, the dt880s wouldnât sound very appealing haha
Out of curiosity I did a very anecdotal âtestâ with my 600 ohm DT880 and output impedance. I plugged them into the headphone output of my Denon AVR-2313CI, which to the best of my knowledge, places a resistor between amp stage and HP output, which would make a large output impedance. I then compared that to the low-output impedance of my Asgard 3. I did NOT hear 2 different profiles. The sound signature was quite similar with the A3 sounding much cleaner and slightly more detailed. I then checked the Darkvoice. It brought the bass out even more, but I suspect that has more to do with how tubes amplify than output impedance. This test is in no way conclusive, but I thought it was interesting and that I should share.
Yea i just cant listen to it on any other amps i have when the darkvoice is there lolâŠinterested to hear it on my 90âs Denon too though. Awhile back a used my k712 with it and there was just too much noise.
The 2313CI is a 2012 model I believe. The HP output is definitely noisy. I expected that. I was more interested in the sound signature. And that didnât change much, if at all, from the A3.
Nice, mine is dra 625r, its been awhile though lol, back when I knew almost nothing lol I think it was made between 1988-1992 its a really good speaker amp though
Thatâs why I mentioned that song. The 880s are already siblant; with something like that song coming on it becomes unbearable.
I would say give it a couple of days of constant listening and see if the sibilance goes away (mechanical and mental burn in lol, also the pads wearing in), and after that if it still bothers you, if you like the Beyer presentation the tygr would be a safe pick imo. Also you are using an Asgard 3 and an e30 correct?
yep. I already have my sights on the Tygrs but if a pad swap could help with my issues Iâll gladly go with that than getting a different headphone.
From my experience non Beyer pads tend to mess up the sound for me, but thatâs just me, I donât really find the Beyerâs overly sibilant at all, but Iâm also not the most sensitive to treble either. The tygr is pretty different from the other beyers in tuning, and is def less bright and would be less fatiguing for some if you are sensitive
measurements and comparisons!
No difference in sound signature between low and high output impedance amps. I didnât expect a big difference at all (canât hear one) but am a bit surprised there is essentially no difference. Thanks for sharing.
Hi all,
Iâve just had some time to catch up on the last few daysâ posts. I canât help but concur with the experience of sibilance on the dt880âs as well as distortion, especially on the lower end. I canât understand it. Iâve tried it with three different amps, the Audio Gd 2r2 11âs built in amp, the Lake People G109 (until it burnt out), and best of all the Feliks-Audio Espressivo OTL amp, and itâs the same. When it avoids the sibilance and distortion things sound fantastic with the tube amp.
Most of all however Iâve been experiencing a kind of headache when listening to them especially when the higher frequencies sound for a while. Itâs definitely not the fit, which I find perfect, but I think I must be treble sensitive or something. The same thing happened to me consistently when I had the 250 ohm version.
Anyway, thatâs just my feedback after a couple of weeks of listening to them pretty much daily. Itâs disappointing because they do what they do well really well, but the headaches are a deal-breaker for me.
Perhaps there is an easy EQ that can work, but I wonât go down that route.
Can you say more about what you mean by distortion? Distortion isnât something I hear with the DT880 unless the bass is eqâd up really high or an amp doesnât have the power to drive them.
As for your headaches, do you notice that on certain types of music? Rock and metal can be way too much on the 880.
As far as eqâing down the treble, mixed bag with that. @Hazi59 talks about putting a layer of material between the ear and driver that helps but I canât remember what he said it was off hand. Also, if budget allows, the iFi Zen DAC can be a good match because of how it rolls off the treble.
Or maybe they just really arenât good headphones for you. Sometimes that happens.
Do you go ahead with the repair on your Lake People amp?