đŸ”¶ Beyerdynamic DT880 600Ω

Maybe the black 250ohm or the Tygr are for me cuz the 880 600ohm is pretty siblant

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At first I thought that I wouldn’t mind the siblance but once I notice it i kept noticing it more and more. Then something like Burn by Ellie Goulding comes on and it becomes unbearable.

From memory, My current pair aren’t as sibilant as the grey 600ohm versions

I don’t think the 880’s are going to shine with these genre tbh lol
 extreme metal for obvious reasons and hip hop because at least ime treble can be a little harsh to begin with sometimes (big ready to die comes to mind)

I’m wondering which tracks you’re hearing distortion and sibilance on? Also the format of the tracks? I’m not home to test but I’d like to know if I can hear the same things.

The Beyer’s are pretty revealing, and that song has a decent amount of sibilance baked in, it’s just giving you what’s already in the track in this case

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It was only a comparison. I don’t actually find the dt880 to be too sibilant. Call Tickeron by Run the Jewels Is the track I noticed the distortion the most. My pair doesn’t distort at all.

The stock pads on my pair in comparison to the gray pads has a warmer tone to it. When I swapped the gray pads on it becomes that neutral bright signature that we are all familiar with. With the gray pads on it doesn’t punch as hard and dig as deep as the stock black pads. This also makes the treble sound a bit more forward and on poor recordings pretty harsh. But with the stock pads I don’t have that issue.

I’ve always enjoyed the way the dt880 sounded with electric guitars. It has that, for the lack of a better word, crunch to it combined with the slight elevation in the upper bass/low mids region which also gave the guitars a bit of weight. It wasn’t too little, It wasn’t too much, It was just right.

The black version has that but now add more slam, better extension in the bass, slightly reduced treble sharpness. These sound perfect to me

Okay right on
 this is kind of what I thought you meant with your bold statement above lol
 doing poorly with poorly recorded treble isn’t surprising as it’s pretty detailed and revealing
 honestly don’t listen to bass heavy tracks like rtj on these but I’ll give it a go when I get a chance. Thanks for elaborating :beers:

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The dt880s are worth it if you have a good compliment for it, like a planar with some slam. I usually go back and forth with edition xx on the basx100 and the 880s on the darkvoice. XX is awesome for when i wanna her rock,edm, and hip hop, and dt880 is great for instrumental,jazz, acoustic, and some live music. Dt880 is just too detailed/revealing and bass light for heavier tracks but they are so good on the lighter end stuff. That being said, the xx are a just a better all rounder, and being 2-3 times the price of the dt880 i would expect that. I have yet to really hear any distortion on the dt880s but maybe if i listened to distorted guitars and bass guitars using a big muff pedal, the dt880s wouldn’t sound very appealing haha

Out of curiosity I did a very anecdotal “test” with my 600 ohm DT880 and output impedance. I plugged them into the headphone output of my Denon AVR-2313CI, which to the best of my knowledge, places a resistor between amp stage and HP output, which would make a large output impedance. I then compared that to the low-output impedance of my Asgard 3. I did NOT hear 2 different profiles. The sound signature was quite similar with the A3 sounding much cleaner and slightly more detailed. I then checked the Darkvoice. It brought the bass out even more, but I suspect that has more to do with how tubes amplify than output impedance. This test is in no way conclusive, but I thought it was interesting and that I should share.

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Yea i just cant listen to it on any other amps i have when the darkvoice is there lol
interested to hear it on my 90’s Denon too though. Awhile back a used my k712 with it and there was just too much noise.

The 2313CI is a 2012 model I believe. The HP output is definitely noisy. I expected that. I was more interested in the sound signature. And that didn’t change much, if at all, from the A3.

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Nice, mine is dra 625r, its been awhile though lol, back when I knew almost nothing lol I think it was made between 1988-1992 its a really good speaker amp though

That’s why I mentioned that song. The 880s are already siblant; with something like that song coming on it becomes unbearable.

I would say give it a couple of days of constant listening and see if the sibilance goes away (mechanical and mental burn in lol, also the pads wearing in), and after that if it still bothers you, if you like the Beyer presentation the tygr would be a safe pick imo. Also you are using an Asgard 3 and an e30 correct?

yep. I already have my sights on the Tygrs but if a pad swap could help with my issues I’ll gladly go with that than getting a different headphone.

From my experience non Beyer pads tend to mess up the sound for me, but that’s just me, I don’t really find the Beyer’s overly sibilant at all, but I’m also not the most sensitive to treble either. The tygr is pretty different from the other beyers in tuning, and is def less bright and would be less fatiguing for some if you are sensitive

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measurements and comparisons!

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No difference in sound signature between low and high output impedance amps. I didn’t expect a big difference at all (can’t hear one) but am a bit surprised there is essentially no difference. Thanks for sharing.

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Hi all,
I’ve just had some time to catch up on the last few days’ posts. I can’t help but concur with the experience of sibilance on the dt880’s as well as distortion, especially on the lower end. I can’t understand it. I’ve tried it with three different amps, the Audio Gd 2r2 11’s built in amp, the Lake People G109 (until it burnt out), and best of all the Feliks-Audio Espressivo OTL amp, and it’s the same. When it avoids the sibilance and distortion things sound fantastic with the tube amp.

Most of all however I’ve been experiencing a kind of headache when listening to them especially when the higher frequencies sound for a while. It’s definitely not the fit, which I find perfect, but I think I must be treble sensitive or something. The same thing happened to me consistently when I had the 250 ohm version.

Anyway, that’s just my feedback after a couple of weeks of listening to them pretty much daily. It’s disappointing because they do what they do well really well, but the headaches are a deal-breaker for me.

Perhaps there is an easy EQ that can work, but I won’t go down that route.

Can you say more about what you mean by distortion? Distortion isn’t something I hear with the DT880 unless the bass is eq’d up really high or an amp doesn’t have the power to drive them.

As for your headaches, do you notice that on certain types of music? Rock and metal can be way too much on the 880.

As far as eq’ing down the treble, mixed bag with that. @Hazi59 talks about putting a layer of material between the ear and driver that helps but I can’t remember what he said it was off hand. Also, if budget allows, the iFi Zen DAC can be a good match because of how it rolls off the treble.

Or maybe they just really aren’t good headphones for you. Sometimes that happens.

Do you go ahead with the repair on your Lake People amp?