I’ll drop my thoughts later since I have sat with beyers entire lineup. Should be interesting
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probably one of the few who is gonna say this now…
the idea from beyer to change how the pads are swapped is the dumbest thing they could have done imo… why the hell would you implement a completely different pad ring adapter attached to the pad itself that isn’t compatible with any other headphone in your lineup…? Not only does this completely destroy any pad swapping capabilities(without the adapter) but it means that these brand new pads can’t be used on other beyers either(the adapter is different to the 1990 and T1 3rd gen as well). At the same time why a 3 pin mini xlr still? its common knowledge at this point that many people love their beyers balanced or just want to use their balanced amplifiers and the 4 pin was a pretty good thing when it came to the 177x go over there… yet they stick to a 3 pin xlr mini incapable of being balanced? I mean, least the headband is sorta replaceable? it just pops off but theres not much you can do in terms of replacing it in this regard. cant really confirm if dekonis headband will fit it just yet…
more thoughts on this later I suppose… It will take some time before I actually sit down with some full sound thoughts, I won’t be listening to any form of “review” right now because nobody has really gotten the time to truly sit down and listen with these for an extended period just yet.
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I honestly don’t see the issue with 3-Pin Mini XLR. Not only is it a sturdy and widely available standardized connector, but Single Ended is completely fine, especially if you actually listen over a good quality Amp.
I just got shipping notice on my pair, will arrive tomorrow.
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Balanced signals certainly have their advantage, but with a lot of cheap-er gear, it is a gimmick more than a feature.
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True, especially Channel Separation is much better on Balanced. But a good SE output still comes very close and it completely adequate. That‘s why I did not understand the complaints about 3-Pin Mini XLR. Just seemed like weird nitpicking ^^
I think I’ll buy the Dt700 Pro and compare them to my Sivga Robin. I wasn’t that impressed by the Sivga so I hope that the Beyers will be a better closed back
At least the pads look comfortable enough, so that pad swapping is not a requirement.
I don’t understand why the pad attachment mechanism being different is a problem either way. When you need new pads, you buy some from beyer or a third party manufacturer and don’t source it from an existing pair or prior model.
Yea, I dont see it being a problem either. Pad swaps is usually to fix a problem(comfort or sound) and their should be none. Plus beyer pad least for a long time.
I can see your point here, though in cases like LP and other amps where sound quality can be definitely noticed in the balanced port it would have been nice to make use of this in a new beyer. It’s something I can get over… though it annoys me a bit.
Pad rolling on beyers is definitely fairly common… not so much for “fixing” an issue but to adopt other sound traits in the signature as an example suedes on the 880 to make them a more warm sounding headphone. That plus, the pads here arent bad at all but not being able to use them on other beyers that use the much thinner velour pad(which flatten over the course of 6 months to a year) is just upsetting imo it would have been a nice trait to have a beyer pad like this that fits other beyers… since something like this is also commonly used on 1990 as well from dekoni…
More just my personal opinion though
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Yeah, I‘m probably in the minority since I mostly enjoy velour earpads
Nice thing about the 4 pin is if you have an interconnect cable, you can just plug something like 177x into the interconnect split. I do it all the time with my 177x. Balanced my 990 600ohms with a 4 pin mini just for that reason.
Any first impressions of the 700? I also want to order them
VERY EARLY first/initial impressions:
- I think they look great!
- The earpads are way plushier and more comfortable than I was expecting. They’re very soft and have more depth than the 770. Not sure if they will stand the test of time but I’m pleasantly surprised at how comfortable they are.
- To understand my feelings about the sound, it helps to understand that for me the 770 were so sibilant I could barely listen to them for more than 5-10min, that classic Beyer treble spike just murdered me. I’m sensitive to treble and these flirt with it but they’ve clearly reduced the treble spike at 6-8k, which for ME personally is great and what I was looking for, but others may say it’s missing the detail they expect to hear in those ranges.
- I heard the 770 a few years ago and have since upgraded my stack to a Bifrost 2 / Jotunheim 2 and it’s possible the source upgrade is part of it, but it has way better bass than I remember the 770 having.
- Anyway, I need to let my ears get used to them but so far pleasantly surprised - will keep listening and letting them break in.
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Yea I am noticing this too… this new direction with this driver I think is better. To me there is no shrill or sibilance that I am hearing. These are much more pleasant while still being neutral sounding. That goes for both versions.
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I will say this… 900 pro is… quite something actually
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A DT-770 without treble murder spike would be great for me.
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My 700 Pro arrived yesterday. I‘ve not had much time to listen to them yet but first impressions were quite positive:
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Love the looks and build quality. Feels sturdy, the height adjust mechanism feels nice and has small steps.
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The earpads are so damn comfortable. Quite deep as well compared to other headphones.
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Clamping force ootb is on the higher side, no problem for me but ymmv.
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Detachable cable is obviously a good thing. The connector feels sturdy.
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On the sound: first thing that struck me were detail and separation. Was able to pick apart different instruments well without a loss in coherency. So really coherent as well. I usually like to test things like detail and separation with acoustic tracks or orchestras since I can pick out any odd or weird sounding instruments quite easily there.
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also no hot zones in the frequency response to my ears. have yet to hear any sibilance.
Again, very early impressions, but if they keep this trend they are winners
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