Anyone know if the inner dimensions on dekonis pads are larger than beyers? I canât find beyerdynamics pad dimensions anywhere.
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comparing the 6xx to the tygr300r the 6xx is much more balanced in terms of frequency but it has a pretty small soundstage. Tygr300r, if you scroll up you can read my review on them, have a very nice large soundstage with a speaker-like presentation and a very wonderful bass with the treble peaking ever so slightly. They are intimate yet laid back somewhere in the middle. You will find these are much more open sounding in comparison. I think they are much better but in terms of clarity and probably even timbre the 6xx wins. However in terms of gaming? 6xx is pretty bad in my opinion as the 58x is better for it. Would highly recommend this headphone for general purpose gaming over both of those however unless you were looking for that real nice balanced sound
7.1 Virtual surround sound is a completely terrible thing for gaming and just in general sound you can actually get this same software through a download through Hesuvi or Dolby Atmos. It helps in some cases but itâs still very well known to be horrid. Itâs completely artificial.
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Really interested in this headphones. The feedback on this topic is pretty positive and gives me the confidence tha i needed⊠iâm thinkng about buying a dac/amp combo for this headphones. iâm undicided beetween fx-audio x6, sabaj d3 or the kguss k3. if i save some more, is the fiio k3 a much better option or it isnât worth it?
Has anybody bought b-stock from beyerdynamic. if yes, what is your experience. âminor cosmetic defectsâ its pretty vague to me.
thanks for the help in advance
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usually exactly as it sounds. Maybe a scratch or a smudge on the headphones or the pads show some minor wear on them that sort of stuff nothing really big as far as issues are concerned. Canât really speak on the amps though hopefully someone else can chime in on those in particular. If I remember right the fx-audio x6 is a warmer amp/dac so it should work well.
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Thatâs true on every platform but PlayStation. My take on VSS is that it works as intended but you gotta deal with the reverb that comes with it. And not all games have itâs own headphone mix or itâs mix has terrible positional audio, all Call of Dutyâs before BO4 for example. So using software or an external device can help with that issue.
However, all of that stuff is gonna be irrelevant in a couple years since sony and Microsoft are now trying to push for better audio with their next gen consoles.
I wouldnât say itâs good for a singular console. Itâs bad in general and is just known for it as a niche in advertising products. While it can help those games with really bad mixes in the sound and the like as you say I still find it pretty bad and yeah the reverb is annoying.
sounds good on paper but microsoft has been going downhill over the last year or so. I stick to pc though so doesnât bother me any.
Alright so, keep in mind this is of course my opinion but I own both. So, this really would boil down to preference as well as budget. I am going to just say hands down for the sake of reading if you have the money for the DT 1990 than the 1990 wins in this case and by a pretty good margin but I will explain.
So the Tygrs are essentially one of beyers headphones that have some of the least treble at the same time itâs somewhat raised and has a very warm presence like I said in my review with it. Itâs very wide with speaker like presentation. This is a very fun headphone and not really meant to be very accurate, itâs designed for the casual gamer. In general the frequency is a pretty balanced yet subtle V or U shape in frequency
as said itâs pretty shockingly close to neutral though where it lacks is clarity, Timbre, and overall Detail. Thatâs not to say itâs bad by any means but itâs just my view on it.
As for the 1990 in comparison it is much brighter and upon adding the Balanced pads it becomes much bassier yet at the same time has great clarity, timbre, and exceptional detail. Itâs very analytical or if you rather use the term Surgical in itâs sound, while it loses some of this using balanced pads it still remains one of those headphones that can definitely pick out issues in sound. Soundstage I think may fall just slightly short in comparison and the presentation here is different as this is more aggressive and intimate compared to the more wide laid back speaker like presentation that the tygrs have.
With this we can see the 3 different pad choices balanced in blue, dekoni elite velour in green, and analytical in purple. The Dekoni Elite Velour puts the frequencies close to one another in comparison. Despite this, I fully believe the 1990 is a upgrade to the Tygrs in virtually every way, well this and the T1 probably more so the T1 though since itâs also a laid back headphone.
For gaming, I think it depends on what you want. DT1990 can be seen as rather fatiguing in comparison due to itâs brightness. I donât have much of those issues using the Dekonis but I still find itâs there from time to time and due to that brightness somethings such as vocals or video podcasts and other sorts of ordeals can seem a little more fatiguing than normal meanwhile the Tygrs I see as a very wide warm and relaxed sound good for just kicking back I donât really see a downside to them if you are someone who just wants to enjoy the sound rather than worry bout too much detail or worry about if theres errors in your music or games soundtrack. However, in terms of competitive gaming? DT1990 is a champ there and the Tygrs just donât stand up to it.
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This is most of the reason why I sold my DT1990s and kept the TYGRs. TYGRs have won out as my all arounders. I can wear them all day and still feel that I didnât get beat down by sound. Kinda similar to wearing 6XXs all day.
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Yeah, I like my DT 1990s but I ended up gravitating more towards using my T1 and Tygrs in most cases. Wouldâve chose T1âs close cousin Amiron Home due to it just being cheaper but I canât get behind the pads nor the Sibilance it has just natural with the S sound.
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I choose the T1.2nd too. I am leaning towards the dt990 pro instead of the tygrâŠ
Depends on if you want a warm relaxed headphone or a very aggressive very sharp V signature headphone. I like both .
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Falenkor already picked up a Helios
Oh, well thatâs completely my bad then, didnât realize. Thanks for letting me know.
No worriesâŠwas in a different thread
Lol, did I miss something? was preoccupied.
Yeah, currently sitting down with it now actually. Still auditioning it.
I was just suggesting a trade you could do with ant, but I now know you already have the helios which voids the whole purpose of the trade.
Ah, alright then. Nah, I do believe @Antpage2 had at one time considered throwing a pair at me for audition or something but nah. I ended up finding them with a good return policy and decided to take the shot at them and audition. Going to give them a solid review myself. Right now itâs going to be a half and half review as I get accustomed to them. I plan to try to give these a solid week, they are enjoyable but I am noticing some changes as I go and I have a few complaints on it right now so we will see as I go. Really wish I had a pair of proper velours to pad swap to in order to change, as I hate suede pads personally.
I tried other beyer pads, dekoni elite velours, and brainwavz perf XL. I found the pads that are already on them to sound the best though I have been tempted to try dekoni choice or sheepskin but I donât have them in house at this current moment. Suede I assume will work well if your a fan of suede. The perfs made them actually sound slightly darker and brought up the bass a bit more. It uses what looks to be a design very similar to that of the T1 pad.
Yeah a lot of people including DMS say the stock pads seem to be the best. My only issue with them which isnât really a much of a issue is my stupid large ears are just a smidge larger than the inner dimensions on the stock pads. I notice them making contact and canât really ignore it but at the same time it doesnât hurt so I canât really complain. Only other pads I have on hand that fit were ZMF Auteur lambskin pads that I use on my he4xx but they just made the tygrs sound really muffled/muddy. Iâll just stick with the stock pads and be happy with what I have, the tygrâs are definitely my favorite pair of headphones Iâve owned so far. Iâm terrible with audiophile terms so I canât really review them personally but I can give them a thumbs up at least for anyone still looking to get them.
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