Whoever does this video, if hes on this siteā¦ Your late to the party lol.
He is wrong on the pads. Those pads are the ā990 VBā from the DT 990 they also soften more with time they are built to be more firm out the gate. Best headband? Maybe actually I didnāt really think about that. Then again T1.2 and Amiron Home have some amazing headbands.
Granted I took off my filters on my tygr and it becomes very bright. Just a 990 in disguise.
I definitely donāt agree with his 1990 balanced pads graph. that bass doesnāt look right to meā¦ Maybe averaged out or compensated?
Yea I knew that he got it wrong on the pads. But was cool that he mentions using the DT 880 silver pads if folks would like an option. Personally I am good with the current pad on them. Really donāt see the need to change them out.
for the tygrs in particular I would say really depends on if you leave the filters on them. If you take the filters out it becomes quite bright so I switched them out to dekoni suedesā¦ quite lovely honestly in that regard. Only for those who can appreciate the brighter sound. That filter keeps the beyers from murdering your ears lol. I do really like the tygrs stock pads too though, canāt really see changing them if the filters are on as everything else just sounds bad or boomy
yeaā¦ that would of been rather irritating. Man you donāt seem to have luck at times. I know you had a real problem with the Sundaraā¦ but then againā¦ itās Hifiman, hit or miss right?
Im looking for a good set to use with my ps4. sure i could put the 880 into my stereo receiver and be fine but id like to have something portable that works with ps4/ps5. also ordered the sivga pheonix and currently have 58x so well see how it goes
I ended up giving up with HIfiman as itās not just their products but their customer service is just straight up awful. When I messaged them about my issues for the third time they tried to essentially accuse me of breaking the headphones and I had to go down a bit of a rabbit hole just to get the last Sundara sent in. It doesnāt help that the ear pads of the sundara are bad for my ear size and are extremely uncomfortable for me, it wouldnāt be so bad if the velour material used wasnāt so scratchy. The build quality isnāt particularly anything special. The only special thing about hifiman is they make an amazing sound for a headphone as 400i is a classic and Sundara is just phenomenal if you can actually get a good working copy. However, after they wanted to get snippy with me and make some sort of false accusation I told them where to stick it got my money back and swore off their company entirely the last straw was the break of my ananda which was for a while my favorite bright headphone.
It just happens to anybody from time to timeā¦ regardless of the company you can have these slip upsā¦ It doesnāt really bother me as I have bought through beyer on numerous occasions between gifts, accessories, or just my own collection and out of buying practically their entire line up(potentially 2 times if I think about it) I only ran into 2 problems of which they asked to fix the 1770ās I denied and just asked for a refund as I wasnāt a big fan of the headphone honestly(ended up with the 177x go at the time) and now I have the tygrs which are defective which I like the tygrs but I mean, there is better options. If they give me any hardship I will switch them out for a different gift itemā¦ as this tygr was meant to be an early christmas gift. I would just rather not spend a lot more money for a gift item lol
I wouldnāt particularly call an open back portable. They leak sound. I would sooner tell you look at dt 770 or Lagoon ANC if you wanted portability.
You may like these. I havenāt tried them and probably wonāt as the pads donāt fit my ear size and may be the biggest complaint for them.
Itās a good headphone for just general purpose use. I wouldnāt say tygr is going to best it in terms of mid centric vocals or clarity but it is a nice addition.
well as long as you have a amp/dac for the headphone you should be alright with anything you decide to go with. I do think the Tygrs are a fantastic well rounded choice though.
i prefer open to closed honestly. if im going to be somewhere with people around me i have unique melody mest iems to take care of me there. but if im gaming and going to be talking, iems tend to start to slip out of my ear so headphones with the wireless modmic are my go to. plus the added benefit of being able to hear myself so i know im not yelling in my mic and awareness of my surroundings
Depends on how you look at it as there are side grades. The area that tygrs excel in is the fact they have bass and yet it doesnāt get in the way of competitive as much as one would think alongside a large soundstage and extremely accurate imagingā¦ Makes them great at competitives and just well rounded use. However, it really boils down to if you like the signature not everyone likes a more recessed mids headphone let alone a headphone that has a slight dark sound to it alongside that warmth. Some people will say they prefer a dt 880 over the tygr as they find it a bit more natural, much more detailed, among other reasons they just prefer the signature just as an example. In terms of ābetterā in its sound signature for a gamer? None to my knowledge until you raise the price by a pretty drastic amount which is why I made the remark āI would rather not spend a lot more on a giftā of sorts.
Welp, @Falenkor, I ended up getting these. Couldnāt pass up seeing them for sale over in the buy/sell thread.
Been listening for the past few hoursā¦ really enjoying this headphone. Not a full review but early impressions:
Wide soundstage
Tight, solid bass but not bloated or muddy
It almost feels like the perfect compliment to the 177X GO (albeit open back) where I really hear the mids in the 177X, but these mids are recessed (not a bad thing)
The only thing I wouldnāt have liked about these is the non-detachable cable but @tglodjo fixed that with the pair I have now lol, so really no complaints currently on music
Need to do a little gaming with them
I could try and do a little pad swapping but in all honesty Iāve always enjoyed the velour pads with Beyers (own the DT 770 also) anyway.
Edit:
Cymbal crashes are flirting with being a little sibilantā¦ Iām sensitive to that anyway and typically listen to dark headphones as a preference so I might just need a little more time for my ears/brain to tune in to the FR.
eh, slightly. The alterations were nice as the DT 990 was more recessed sounding for me personally.
I had compared the soundstage to my k7xx and these actually sounded wider which was surprising and the bass is quite wonderful.
oh you bought his modded pair? Lol well alright then that works. These are probably one of the best āwarmā signatured headphones with the particular sound characteristics at $200 so worth it in my opinion.
That will be interesting to hear about.
it worksā¦ decently. It does however, make them sound a bit dark and a little more on the boomy side of things. Preference based in that regard.
I have zero sibilance or any harshness from this headphone. What do you have it connected to? if you have a setup that can make these brighter(to a certain degree) thats a huge no go these can turn sibilant extremely fast(it is just a DT 990 revision after all). At the same time, definitely be sure its not a bad recording as I have had a few that caused this.
Definitely give it some time. At the least 2 - 3 weeks to really get used to it. It takes time to burn in(beyers do change with time so keep that in mind) as well as some mental burn in
Yup, very possible it was a bad recording. Heard it on In Flames - Man Made God and havenāt had any issues with it since.
Iām running Amazon HD ā Grace SDAC ā JDS Labs Atom / CTH / Dark Voice ā TYGR. Playing around with the ampsā¦ this sounds really nice on the CTH.
ah okay then, yeah maybe it was just a bad recording.
Well, I normally donāt have issues with setups with this and some brighter setups sound alright for me like the AUNE stack and Schiit stack. I have had the THX cause some strange sibilance though. In most cases I like the slight raise in treble though as it balances it out a little more for me.
So Iāve had these for about a week now and have been really enjoying them. Possibly my favorite headphone around $200 Iām very much satisfied with these. Itās FR is something Iām familiar with (literally have 2 other headphones with a similar FR).
Bass: very good impact, well extended, tastefully boosted. Melds a bit with the mids which adds a bit of extra warmth to male vocals and electric guitars. A tiny bit boomy but it doesnāt really bug me. Compared to my modded 9500 and 880 black se, the bass response is a bit tighter
Mids: I find them to be perfect where theyāre at. Iām not a fan of forward mids like what you would hear with Sennheiser headphones. Iām pretty sensitive to upper midrange frequencies so any headphone that boost that range in relative to the harman target curve will sound pretty shouty to me. I find the Tygrs mids to be neutral across the board which means some other people may find them a bit recessed. Theyāre pretty detailed, have good timbre and have a natural tonality.
Treble: Quite detailed, pretty airy, smooth but a little more forward compared to my 880. They can get sibilant with poorly recorded tracks (which is most of the songs on my playlist) while my 880 arenāt as bad but itās still tolerable. Good timbre here as well.
Soundstage: pretty good depth, slightly wider than the 880.
Imaging: like always with beyerdynamic headphones it is laser pinpoint.
Gaming: When I played Warzone Solos with these on for first time, got a dub on my first game lol. Not really adding anything here just wanted to share.
Conclusion: Iām definitely keeping these. I really like itās FR. Theyāre just super enjoyable to listen to. They work with just about any sort of media. This is that type of headphone that almost everyone will like. Too bad they go out of stock often.
Holy shit, I had forgot you finally got these lol.
Boomy? hell I get more bass out of the T1 3rd gen lol even the SHP9600 was a bit bassier in my opinion. Seems just right to me.
Perhaps itās just me or I really donāt have a lot of poor recordings that I listen tooā¦ I have very rarily got this issue. It might be that peak in the frequency response that goes above neutral causing that. Least that would be my guess.
I donāt mean to rant but surely I would like to think that Beyerdynamic can see this is a large issue. It constantly goes out of stock and is almost impossible to get outside of itās bundle which is garbage. Itās such a good headphone and itās walled off from the public