Summary:
Everything before 7:50 = taking the IEM boxes out of the big box
Everything after 7:50 = extremely noncommittal āthey are goodā rambling
It sounds like sound signatures of the revised Andro and Solaris havenāt changed significantly, which is good news because nothing was broken with either. When it came to sound of the Ara, the message was pretty much āI liked it, but I donāt want to say anything about it yet because I only listened for an hour.ā Well, at least his hour was well-spent, and I only lost 15 minutes of my life to rediscover what Iād already read in the presser.
I got a little more out of this sub-3-minute preview, which describes the Ara as promising āa very resolving and appealing sound signature with excellent vocal presentation and an expansive soundstage.ā Frankly I could use that same description for Andromeda, so itās difficult to picture what makes Ara unique, but at least thereās a hint of what they may have been setting out to accomplish.
Thereās also a much longer Head-Fi video with interviews with Caleb Rosenau and Ken Ball from Campfire:
Per Ken, the Ara takes elements from Andro Gold and MW10, but changes the low frequencies a bit. The goal was to accentuate the mids and enhance detail.
Any thoughts on which campfires are best for classical? I like everything from duets and trios to big choral symphonies.
I think the Andros would be perfect for those genres
I was hoping youād say one of their cheaper models
Iāve read the Lyra 2 might be good. There are still some available on the net.
I think the Andros would be spot on for those genres with their mids and sparkling but non fatiguing highsā¦but if youāre chasing a similar sound signature of say the solaris without the I can defo rec the spring 1ās
Canāt see myself ever spending $1,500 on IEMs. Headphones, ok, since theyād never leave my desk, and will never be stuffed in my pocket.
I guess you want to buy into the campfire brand? which is cool but I have both the Andros and the Peacock P1āsā¦yes the Andros to my ears are the better set but 10x better? thatās gonna be a personal callā¦maybe the Tin HiFi P1ās are worth considering too if you can drive them? as theyāre power hungryā¦I love those too
Iām not familiar with the Peacock P1. Iāll check them out. As for Tin, I recall Zeosās rave view of the P1 and his comparison with the Android, as well as the rave review by Bad Guy Good Audio or whatever he calls himself. Reminds me a lot of Zās estimation of the M1060 as being so close to the LCD2 as to make it hard to justify the extra $$. He argued that the lower price of the LCD2c killed the value-for-money advantage of the M1060, just as a cheaper Campfire would, if I could find one with the right signature, I guess.
Iām not wed to Campfire, I just like the idea. I donāt know why. The fact that itās American made helps. Seems like 99% of what I buy is Chinese. I wonder if I have the power for the P1ā¦my own the go rig currently consists of a ES100 connected to my Pixel 3. (Love the ES100, by the wayābest $100 Iāve ever spent).
We have a thread on the Peacocks here
Theyāre getting more exposure now so you should be able to get more opinions, as for power if ES100 can drive DT1990ās? then it should be ok but the Tin P1ās love a bit of headroom
Thanks. I just read through. Now I want both the Peacocks and the Andromeda!
Have you ever listened to the Comet?
Sadly no sorry Iāve not heard the Cometāsā¦Iām sure some of our forum members have so hopefully they can chime in?.
Ok not everyones cup of tea but I like John, he likes music first and he also appreciates and owns high end gearā¦
This might help on the Comet front?
Yeah I like John but he is pretty far from the truth in my opinion. The video is also quite old and plenty of good IEMs have been produced in the past year.
$200 tops out just above ābudgetā, I would call it mid tier.
It lacks the dynamic bass as they are just Balanced Armature, just one. There are seriously some very good options out there for this price now.
What ātruthā is that?
Well, he called it the ābestā budget IEM.
The truth is technically there is no such thing as best because sound is subjective. But for the price there are IEMs with better timbre, or bass, or mids etcā¦
Iāve not heard the Cometās but iām sure everyone has their take on the best < $200 iem if you want to champion the then thatās cool ā¦iām listening on Andros being English but yeah Chifi offer the best audio bang for buck for sure?..your choice and preference as always
If I ever got a Campfire it would be the Io, but will likely not stand up to others I have. Iām going to avoid Campfire as Iām pretty confident the edges of the iems would touch something that doesnāt like to be touched by a metal ridge lmao
Iād consider the Tin 2 great ābudget IEMs.ā Comets? No, but Darkoās review, which Iāve seen before, and quite a few others like BGGR or whatever his name is, made it sound like the Comet was one of those cases of terrific value for the money, and an option that exposed the extent to which ābetterā gear meant spending considerably more money for relatively incremental improvements (diminishing returns).
I like Darkoās videos a lot, and I have the feeling Iād like him a lot if we met. Heās one of the reasons why Iām so intrigued by the Meze 99. That said, his musical tastes are distinctly different from mine. Heās into early 80s post punk, for example. Iām more about Bach. That makes me skeptical about whether something he likes is necessarily something Iād like.
My old standbys are Fischer DBA-02 MK2, which I bought after losing my pair of Mk 1. All based on some reviews on Head-Fi. They were about $150 and are really good. And yes, distinguishably better than my Tin2, which I bought for my son. (He doesnāt care for him, which is great, as I ordered those Fiio BT adapters and will make them into all BT iems for my own use). Only when I pay close attention to I find the Fischerās inadequate, esp. after listening as much as I do to my HD650s. So Iām convinced ābetterā exists, and I know I donāt need to jump up to Adromedas to get better (not that Iām not tempted!)
By no means am I saying he is wrong.
I am simply saying that ābestā isnāt a useful term, and that if by ābestā he meant best mids or best treble or bass or whatever, in the year or so since the video was made, other offerings have come out for a cheaper price that has less sibilance or deeper bass or whatever; meaning whatever he used to clarify them being the best, there are ābetterā now.