And these Co-Pilot pads from ZMF has been absolutely fantastic for me! because believe it or not even with these i felt numb on the top of my head after a while of extended use, not with pilot pad though!
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i totally feel the same about my Original Clears relative to the Noire as well, but i think i still prefer the noire over the Clears even though i bought both for bass, but i feel like the Clears is just more vivid down under.
Okay wow, I have to say great call on the ZMF Pilot Pad - I completely forgot I had one laying around from my HP-3 and while I didnāt find the Noire uncomfortable, this fits perfectly and feels really nice!
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oh wow you got a ZMF pad for it too! and it looks really comfy, thanks for sharing really cool! the velcro doesnāt hold perfectly so i may just pick up the originals and see how they do.
if you are trying them out like that iād love to hear more. i cant adjust mine down because i rely on the steel wires to hold the velcro tight because the co-pilot are juuuuuuust too big for the aeons so barely enough to make it work
can you adjust it substantially without it loosening? how do those connect?
i think that the overshoot here due to the portruding headband attatchment is causing a less secure connection but i donāt know. because when i adjust the headband the co-pilot seems to come loose for some reason. seems like it is less secure on there because of the size of the co-pilot
Hello,
I havenāt had the Dan Clark yet.
But you describe a bit what I experienced with the Euforia and the Lcd 2c.
Maybe that will help you.
Everything is great in terms of clarity, midrange and treble.
But bass could be better, also the attacks.
Later I went with the Loki and it was a little better, but then it was too much drive for me.
In other words, the Loki overlapped one clean area with another.
On the dynamic drivers that can be okay but not on the planar.
In general, they resolve completely differently and both drivers have their strengths and weaknesses.
Because I couldnāt get the idea out of my mind, I thought of an Eq that had more bands.
In the end, that was the solution.
With a 15 band analogue Eq I could better determine and control the whole thing.
Of course, this also works with software, but I didnāt know what to do with Apo.
But now with the Eq and Euforia and the Lcd2 c it works.
Since the Aeon is also relatively close to the Lcd 2 C, it should be said that both are relatively very honest headphones.
Both are headphones that reveal a bit of the strengths and weaknesses of the amplifiers.
When I plug the Lcd 2 into the Little Dot Mk1+, itās symbiosis, and when I plug the Euforia without crossfeed, itās a bit bloodless.
The truth is probably somewhere in between as far as that is concerned.
Iām a little critical of the Aeon, which with its 13 ohms starts to distort relatively early.
And this can have a negative effect on an amplifier that is too powerful because it starts to distort sooner.
An amplifier that is perhaps not too powerful could possibly help.
Where there is less power, nothing can distort.
Or look for amps that are Iem capable, as these also have a low impedance and are better designed.
If you have potent amps, you can try to lower the volume in Windows so that you have to turn up the volume more on the amp.
Instead of just a quarter and everything is superimposed.
This is often a mistake in the application because perception plays a trick.
By lowering the volume, more silence comes in and suddenly the details and strings of the instruments come into their own better.
It costs nothing to try before you start looking for amps and chasing ghosts, sometimes this is the better compromise.
Itās also something I learned along the way when I was adjusting the Analaog Eq.
I didnāt realise that I used to listen to totally distorted music.
And thatās really worth its weight in gold with planar headphones when you understand it.
so this may sound odd but
i just found that in uncompressed songs i didnāt really miss dynamic slam, the slam isnāt great but itās not bad anymore. i found it to be OK, never thought that would change from MP3 to FLAC but it really did. I found that this little bit of added slam did a lot for my enjoyment with these. the Noire definitely sounded more fun to me with uncompressed songs. iām refering to the bass region
very unlike the Clear which will just shove dynamics into your ear no matter what the compression is like
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did you try? iād be interested to know how you feel about it. i donāt want to be that crazy audio person so i wanted to bounce off some ideas and see if it actually makes sense, if you feel like looking into it ofc, if you donāt i understand and thats okay too!
I think you may be surprised
Hmm, I did a little listening this morning and did some A/B testing with FLAC lossless audio files vs. the same files on Spotify (compressed 320kbps)ā¦ I canāt say that I really hear any difference in the low end, and if I did I think it might have been placebo. 
But thatās great it works for you!
may be that you would only spot it with certain types of songs since there is this one song that showed a huge different from youtube to 16 bit. I would be surprised if you wouldnt hear the same but source gear is another factor
Do you still consider them a way better version of the Meze 99? I have the Meze 99 Meze 99 Noir so I am curious what you think now. How would you compare the bass of those two?
Is this your favorite closed back you have?
You mentioned the Aeon closed X. That would be a good comparison. $400+ difference.
if anyone has the Aeon with ZMF pilot pads let me know if you can adjust freely without the pad loosening or just coming loose.
sorry for the spam hope thats okay, definitely donāt want to pull the trigger on it without knowing the possible challenges so i wanted to push a couple copypastas
Do you mean adjusting the length via the rails on the side? Yeah Iām not having any issues with that at all. Thereās a very slight bulge on top (which is also showing on your picture) but otherwise Iād say itās a pretty good fit.
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Great!
had issues with the velcro on the co-pilot loosening with each use when taking them on and off my head where i pull the drivers apart to fit them onto my head. If it doesnāt sort itself out with attempts of refitting them to the band ill have this in mind, iāll end up on pulling the trigger if the issue continues
thank you alphamarshan!
on another note, did you try and EQ up the bass around 105hz?
Hi M0N. Do you think the THX amps or something like a SMSL SP400 or Topping A90 would be suitable for the Aeon 2?
Slight preference to topping but both are ok and really nothing more, they have good control and power delivery for the aeons and drive them decently, but the aeons will feel somewhat restricted in low level information like microdetail and microdynamics, somewhat boxed in spatial recreation, and meh timbre
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which kind of sucks because aeon 2 (noire pads/noire) can get incredibly wide from right to left. got the Sinxer SA-1 coming this week so im excited to see if it retains the width of the V280, i donāt expect it too really because of the price difference but iām excited to see how much im going to be sacrificing with the downgrade
Replaced! It actually wasnāt that scary - I followed along with the YouTube video and that helped a lot.
So I perceive a very slight bass boost, which is great, and also Iād say the replacement pads are just as comfortable as the stock ones, if not maybe even slightly more so because they donāt really āstickā to me the same way the stock ones do.
But in listening, I would say they are incredibly similar to the stock pads lol. Depending on the song, I may have trouble identifying which pads were which, unless there was a distinctly bass-driven song where I would know it was probably the Dekoni pads. The FR graph on their website pretty much confirms that.
Also the stock pads that came off were not damaged at all and the adhesive still seems pretty sticky? Iām keeping them and I wonder if there would be a way to swap them back in at some point in the future if I felt like it. Would be nice to know I have an āextraā pair of pads just in case.
TLDR: Dekoni sheepskin pads are great, but so similar to the stock pads that itās probably not worth the $70, but YMMV. 
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really really cool stuff, thanks for that! ask Dan Clark for a set of double sided tape! the tape has to come from somewhere before it gets to the pads!
with your impressions in mind it seems like a really really good buy, especially since the stock aeon pads roll over the memory foam and misshapes the pads all the time, it is super annoying having to deal with that so i may jump on it myself since your impressions of them is so super! thanks again!
NOTE THE LEFT PAD RELATIVE TO THE RIGHT
it really sucks having to deal with that, may be the shape of the pad or the build idk, but iāve never seen Dekoni pads doing that so i may take my chance, what do you think about this? have you had the same issues?
BTW there is a video from Dan on a fix but i never got mine sorted out, they should really fix this internally
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Hmm I see your picture but no I canāt say Iāve had the same issue. I will say that I have noticed a small indentation in the front from my glasses but thatās it. Iāll see if the Dekoni are more/less malleable as I use them though.
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