🔶 FiiO x Crinacle FHE Eclipse

amon_meiz · February 15, 2022, 1:03pm

Yeah. Better to admit & embrace who we are than to deny our deepest desire.

I understand. “endgame” is different for each individual. For some it’s the highest of the peak, for others, it’s the most we can afford😅

Just to pique your interest, to whet your appetite, Softears Volume seems like a step up, 1 level higher, in the same direction of Fh3/Fhe.

Been monitoring the iem for awhile, waiting for reviews to drop. SuperReview confirmed he also currently reviewing the Softears Volume.

Check it out if u want to. If it suit your taste, maybe something to look forward too. probably this year Christmas gift to yourself

codyghind · February 17, 2022, 7:49pm

Just landed on the thread after researching as much as possible on a bass-friendly IEM! My current two candidates are FHE (obviously) and Ikko OH10, but I’m torn between the two… Being in the same ballpark pricewise doesn’t help either.

I’m mainly looking for a second IEM to complement the more analytical sound of TRI Starsea.

Decisions, decisions

Rcayn · February 17, 2022, 8:38pm

FHE over IKKO OH10

fireWire87 · February 17, 2022, 9:27pm

Just got these in today and after a good session with them I find them to be quite fun for specific genres. I still think the Legend X is still the bass king to my ears, I ended up selling my LX because I wanted something with less bass as weird as that sounds. But for $150 these are pretty damn good. Maybe i’ll do a comparison if I end up picking up the Evo X for shits and giggles.

Sundown · February 17, 2022, 10:47pm

Ok, any explanation why?

amon_meiz · February 17, 2022, 11:32pm

Edit:sorry i just noticed u meant fhe vs oh10. Not fh3 vs oh10. So sorry

I own both of them, and my thoughts are:

Both very bassy.

Both have good instruments separation.

But;

Oh10 is more bassy.Fh3 bass is like being hit with foam baseball bat. Oh10 bass is like being smothered in thick blanket.

Fh3 is abit more forward. Satisfying when it comes to vocal, but on a busy tracks, it can be abit overwhelming. Like being in a concert, held in a subway train.

Oh10, due to having v shaped sound signature, the midrange suffer, and the vocal is more recessed. But instead of feeling “veiled”, it’s more like being in a concert,held in a large hall. And the vocalist decide to stand way back without using microphone.

Vocal is less forward, but in return u get wider soundstage, and instruments are more prominent. The placement of each instrument is very clear. Very airy. It is a weakness /flaw, but a flaw i personally much enjoyed.

Fh3 is more fatiguing over long listening session.

Oh10 is more enjoyable with rock music due to higher treble. Guitar distortion especially sounds nice.

Both fit well, but i have trouble more with oh10 due to it’s weight. It nearly twice heavier than fh3, and the effect is obvious. Every 30,40 minutes, i need to remove the iem, take a 10 seconds rest before putting it back in.the weight has significant effect. Your mileage might varies.

CTOXmas · February 18, 2022, 12:07am

I def rec the OH10 if you can find it for the $130 it sometimes drops to

amon_meiz · February 18, 2022, 12:23am

I agree. If i have to keep only 1, i will pick oh10 over fh3. Nothing against fh3, it’s just oh10 does a lot good that suit my taste/need.

Sundown · February 18, 2022, 8:05am

I like the oh10 but it’s way too heavy. When out in public I take the earphones out and rest them on my ears and only the oh10 sags and falls down and just too heavy. So ordered the FHE as I already kind of liked the fh3. Hoping for the best.

amon_meiz · February 18, 2022, 8:32am

That’s very true. It’s so heavy.

Hopefully fhe is to your liking

CTOXmas · February 19, 2022, 12:08am

if you use tips that fit well it shouldn’t I headbang with mine and they don’t fall out

codyghind · February 22, 2022, 11:00am

Out of curiosity, how do you feel about FHE nowadays? Since some time has passed, I was wondering if your overall opinion on the sound remains the same.

Sundown · February 22, 2022, 11:03am

Mine arrivied in the states I think. Can’t wait to try them.

Baku_Baku · February 22, 2022, 4:08pm

There’s a part of the video about the FHE, by Precog,

In sum: He clearly did not like them. He considers that the bass lacks texture and the treble is too hot.

Baku_Baku · February 22, 2022, 4:28pm

I like them, they are my everyday carry, always on my backpack. I enjoy music with them, they sound fun, and alive, they have good soundstage, imaging, instrument layering. And those are the things that I appreciate more. I am ok not having a lot of detail retrieval.

Overall the first impressions have been confirmed. Even on the caution side. They can be too aggressive on the treble.

Now, I might be seen phantoms here, but after more use, it seems like they are ok at some volume (slightly under what I like to play), they sound great, very balanced. But when you push the volume up then it seems like they get unbalanced between the drivers. It seems like the DD (bass) cannot push more volume and only the BA (mids and treble) start to push more volume. So it is difficult for me to listen these at high volume, because they become too aggressive. I can listen them for hours while reading or working, but if I push the volume is when the treble becomes too hot and aggressive. Maybe I have to try different tips. I am using the Azla Sedna standard, they tend to show more open sound, with more mids and treble than bass.

After a lot of time with the FHE I returned to the Clairvoyances and the Cascades, and I could see more clear the differences in terms of tuning and technical performance. The FHE have their limitations, specially in terms of detail and aggressive tuning. But it’s a 150$ IEM, yes, a lot of money, but still something that you can keep in your backpack everyday without being too worried.

syscrusher · February 22, 2022, 5:22pm

I think that review is fair. I have had little desire to pick up the FHE over the past week. To be honest I’ve been using the KZ CRN more (with the suggested EQ change). To some degree I was jumping on a bit of a meme in buying them, but my expectation was for something fun with how it was described. I don’t find them especially fun. The timbre is average. They’re listenable, and the fit, comfort and build are great. But that’s where my praise ends. Lessons learned.

domq422 · February 22, 2022, 8:12pm

@Baku_Baku its easy to forget that $150 is still considered a good amount of money for a normal person that isn’t familiar with the hobby. I definitely have that problem. $1000 for a Canada Goose jacket?! That’s outrageous!

$1500.00 for mest MkII? That’s fantastic value!

amon_meiz · February 23, 2022, 1:35am

I like the reviewer, and his reviews, especially when i have the same complaints about Timeless as he is. But he’s pretty critical and harsh here .

But i understand, in the same spirit of Crin, he going to review Crin iems like how Crin reviews iem. It’s fair game😁.

When he start talking about Fh3 being congested, i thoughts to myself “yeah, that’s true. But i really like it tho”

Sundown · February 26, 2022, 4:03pm

Got mine in last night and notice the sub bass is nice and rumbly. Much more than the oh10. Midbass would probably go to the oh10 by just a slight margin. Male vocals sound much smoother on the fhe. Less anemic, and have a little more weight to them. Not sure if that lower or upper mids. However on the oh10, vocals made my ears cringe in a way I’d have to turn it down. Got a shouty sensation but never a treble spike issue. Just that area in the upper mids? The FHE tames that area down and gives it a smoother sound. Treble isn’t as sparkly as the oh10 neither but it’s still quite nice and get all the details. Gunshots in video games sound cleaner. Specifically BF4. Soundstage is similar.

Listening to rock music is much better on the fhe. It’s just a bit smoother overall. Not fatiguing at higher volumes like the oh10 with it’s v shape. I’d say the fhe is v shaped but the bottom of the v is brought up. So vocals are a bit more forward to my ears. I quite like them. I’ll be getting the olina in today and will compare all three. OH10 is a really nice set as well. If you can get them for around $150 as well, and light a bit more of a brighter sound definitely get those. If you want a bit warmer sound than the fhe will be your better choice.

amon_meiz · February 26, 2022, 4:33pm

Thanks for your impression.

Appreciate the comparison with OH10. Looking forward to your Olina review.

And i agree with what u said about OH10, tho it’s characteristics are to my liking (sparkly treble etc)