I thought that was an “empty wallet” gif 
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Will be soon at this rate LOL
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I’ve tried the Timeless, Z12 and HeyDay. HeyDay was the first that I could have compromised myself into liking. It’s why my for me it still gets a shout out in the planar round up. Timeless and Z12 were pretty much an instant no go for me as they were to fatiguing. I can say for sure, from my perspective at least, that the Panda in no way fatigues me and is high volume approved. I mean we jammed together for 6 hours straight. A few songs got cranked up in that time.
Staging I’m going to lightly say is holographic as I don’t feel I’m the best judge of this. I get a sense of the vocalist being more center and the band around them. If anything I hear it to be more oval with cal singer ever so slightly forward. Not the widest though in either direction. Best image I could find that sums what I hear up is below.
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Stop with the impressions damn it.
Your going to make me buy it and I am saving for the serial or something dark like it!
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I’m the one that talked him into the Panda so I vouch for it:
If you don’t have your flavor of planar yet, and have tried any of the others, the Panda is wonderful.
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Thanks for the brief comparison. Looks promising. Do you think it sounds similar to the DM? Others who heard both can chime in too since I recall Mag saying he couldn’t get the right fit. I’m assuming the staging on the DM is bigger?
Graph of Hola (yellow) vs Zero (blue) and Hexa (pink):
Will graph the rest (wan’er/DSP/Khan) once I get them back
And since we’re talking about DM, here’s how the Hola (yellow) is vs DM (orange)
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Dark Magician and Panda share the DNA of the mid-centric style. From memory:
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Dark Magician has a complete different tier of texture in the bass/lower mids. It’s at least top-3 and probably top-2 in IEMs I’ve heard off the top of my head
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Panda is going to have brighter treble. Not that Dark Magician is super dark or lo-res at all, but Panda is closer to bright in it’s smoothness
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Planar technicalities stomp all over DM, even though DM is fantastic at that
But for a mid-centric tuning, I don’t know if there’s anything in price between Dark Magician and P1 Max even worth considering. P1 Max is like a step behind DM, at worst, in all the objective kinds of things we can judge. Dark Magician just has that something extra that’s special.
It’s not worth the $80 vs. $600 price tag, but it’s there
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Cool cool. I think I might just hold off for now then if they’re that similar (and spend it on some of the new stuff coming out). Now I just need my man Ethan to update it with a better driver… if he’s still active. I’d totally be down for a 3DD DM.
Absolutely love them pandas. I truly believe that Planar technology is the way to go for my kind of tuning, essentially been looking for that Susvara experience in an iem (haha might not find it but it’s an enjoyable journey). Tried 7hz timeless, s12, s12 pro, pr1 hifi, Tangzu Wu zetian, raptgo hook-x, and campfire audio supermoon. So far the only one that I kept is the p1 max for that lush relaxed experience.
However I do find that they need good amplification to really bring out what they can do. I have tried them on the mojo / Hugo 2 but I find that they truly shine in the Singxer sa-1 or audio gd master 9 (some more than others, like the 7hz it was a night and day difference between the mojo and the SingXer).
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That… Is a very efficient EQ!
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Thank you, I really try. I can give you an even more efficient EQ, as long as whatever the pre-amp is, you do -4.0 dB on top of that
I was almost ready to buy the Heyday, but after your experience with the Pandas I think I’ll give them a shot.
I prefer a mid centric sound with smooth treble, so looks like she’s my jam.
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The panda could be bought at $80 during sales. So I would advise those who want it to look for such a price (isn’t there sales in February in China?)
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Exactly my thoughts. I own the Timeless and S12, and don’t listen to either very often, so I don’t have time for another. Tea, Tea2, and Olina SE, get most of my serious listening time.
I dabble with some budget sets, currently the QKZXHBB and Cadenza for travel and in office.
Or get Panda in 2-4 weeks on sale… 
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I’m not feeling too hot, boys, not sure I’ve come down with the Rona or not but I have the energy of an 87 year old man the last 2 days 
But I wanted to come through and slide into this thread right quick and say the Pandas are such a good rec for under $100 that If I didn’t have the Timeless already, I would have picked them up immediately after I listened to them with @GooberBM. I never would of thought they’d sound that natural - Hell, I never would of thought a planar could sound that natural period.
They also scale so well, that’s something the other planars can’t say, I can assure you. Anyways, I’m hyped for you, @MMag05 ! I hope it’s a long, loving relationship between you and Big Panda 
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Hope you feel better soon 
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Thank you, brother
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I might not know them, if not for them having a few songs in the “Rock Band” games. They have some serious talent, and are about the most pop rock I get.
Get well soon. I have done both Rona and the flu in the last month, so I get the feeling old part. Of course I have a IRL head start on being old.
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