IEM discussion thread (Part 1)

@MMag05 did you say you were eyeing Yanyin Moonlight? Because very very early impressions from 2 owners are very favourable. Hopefully @hawaiibadboy will get his set too, then he can do a long video review on the entire Yanyin lineup :raised_hands:

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Mail came early. Was a nice surprise coming back from the beach today.

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Where did you happen to see those impressions? Curious what they may have said other than theyā€™re enjoying them. Three hours in I can definitely say Iā€™m thoroughly enjoying them. Thereā€™s nothing that sticks out as flawed for me in technicality.

Iā€™m really enjoying the EST implementation and the treble presentation they bring to the mix. Not really helpful overall but, I think Moonlight is definitely a mature Canon sound. Itā€™s like they found the sweet spot, added some ESTs and tightened up technicalities. Seems like if you enjoyed the Canon these would be a winner.

If you do own the Canons already and enjoy them thereā€™s a lot of similarities. Do I think theyā€™d be worth the upgrade probably not. Especially if you enjoy the tuning switches. If you donā€™t own the Canon, are turned of by the switches or you think youā€™d enjoy the refined treble from the EST Iā€™d highly place these into consideration. Though at $300 more itā€™s a harder pill to swallow.

With that my opinion for preferences and IEMs Iā€™ve heard these compete as one of best EST implementations up to $1000. Given the ones up to and even above the asking price.

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I literally joined the forum just to second this (hi, btw). I have the T3+ and love it (kept it over the KATO; the KATO is ā€œbetterā€ but JUST too much upper mid/treble energy for me) and the Serial looks like an eventual upgrade path Iā€™d like, so that comparison would be huge!!!

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Iā€™ve had a similar reaction to the Katoā€™s and love the Serialā€™s. Iā€™ve since found some redeeming qualities in the Katoā€™s, but I suspect youā€™ll like the Serialā€™s. I guess I should give the t3+ a shot

Did a crude EQ by eye, using squig links, to put the T3+ on the Serialā€™s FR curve on my Q5K and obviously, the lack of air in the 4-8k cut is very noticeable. Does that lack of air play on the Serial, compared to other sets, or is it not as bad as the graph implies?

Serial mid treble is pretty dark and not airy the two sets Iā€™ve tried, yes.

finally listening to my chu (i got it a week ago but was busy travelling)ā€¦ first impression is yeah it might need a bit of a bass bump if just i like the feel of a heavy thump (JPEGmafia just needs that phat bass to work as well as it does)ā€¦ and these should be used WITH the spring tipsā€¦ not only do they fit me pretty damn well, but with final E tips they felt a lot more sharp and almost uncomfortable in areasā€¦ where the upper mids feel like they are going too far and starting to hurt. (which my opinion on the tips are they fit me really wellā€¦ but i donā€™t like the stickyness they have as i start to wonder if Iā€™m getting an infection with them on, and they can be kinda hard to put on other IEMs)

i also want to note i have heard one horror story of someone getting the chus metal filter in their ear by accidentā€¦ which is not something that would be easy to most others but this case did make me nervous about wearing these chu more often because i donā€™t wanna have that stuck in or these break that fast

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Below is my round about way to sum up my thoughts on the Moonlight. Without getting into its technicalities. Take this extremely lightly as I think the Moonlight is phenomenal and Iā€™m seriously enjoying it. Almost more so than any IEM Iā€™ve heard.

Of all my IEMs XENNS Up has been around the longest and made all my purges. Being favored over many giants like the U12T, Monarch MKII and Mest MKII. Thereā€™s something special about itā€™s presentation that nothing has compared to. OG Tea is my newest arrival before the Moonlight came in. From first listen it feel right into Up territory. No matter what IEM I listen to nothing makes me forget their sound.

Funny enough though I canā€™t seem to find anything special or a remeberal signature on the Moonlight. I do think it represents one of the best, smoothest, detailed and balanced presentations to date Iā€™ve heard. Bass is just right, imaging staging are great and treble is perfectly airy. Everything exist as a phenomenal cohesive tuning. I canā€™t find anything on it that Iā€™d say is missing or isnā€™t enough except the special sauce . Hits every other point and all genres to near perfection for my taste.

My only issue and itā€™s extremely minuscule is back to the special sauce. Ultimately for me that will probably be itā€™s crutch as further releases come along. I just donā€™t think it has anything that another IEM at a later time will make me look back on and remember my time under the Moonlight. For now though it is slowly creeping up as my favorite all around IEM to date.

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Thatā€™s all I could really say about the Canon vs Serial - I was all round impressed by the Canonā€¦ but the Serialā€™s presentation, most notably bass but overall timbre and tone, is just special. Some IEMs just have that special sauce youā€™re speaking of. Iā€™m all the more intrigued by exactly what the Up sounds like.
People have described the Penon Volt with similar devotion. That and the EJ07 are some of my final curiosities (that will be on pause for the summer at least). Iā€™ve been blessed to manage to sell off everything, no post office pressure or bank credit burden if I step away.

I did end up keeping the Oriveti OH300, at least for now. Their sauce might not be quite as distinct from others in the sea of IEMs, but they are distinct enough from the Serial, and fit like a glove.

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Itā€™s an old one but if you like the Oriveti OH300, youā€™ll absolutely love the Oriolus MK2ā€¦ It goes for $880 new but can be had for $350-400 used.

That thing has special sauce in the mids. Very soulful, hyper intimate AND 3D. Sounds huge with great sound pressure.

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There is also Oriolus Reborn which is MK2 with better cable and adjusted housing design if I remember correctly seen from time to time for ~450 dollars on head fi.

One of those ones I would really love to try, however I am afraid that the hobby moved this fast in past 6 years since the original release that it wonā€™t keep a candle to the rest of chifi

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Oh I would say it does. The mids are special on that IEM, one of the best if not the best I ever heard. Not as detailed as something like the MEST MK2 and maybe even a smidge behind the Timeless, but the dimensionality, intimacy, lushness, power, size and emotion of the mids were chefā€™s Kiss. Itā€™s the highs that falter on that set and shows its age.

Funny you mention the Volt as being that. I had my eye on it at one point. Not sure why it feel of the radar. Maybe Iā€™ll have to revisit it at one point if I can find one used.

In some way my take on the Serial is like yours for the OH300. Itā€™s easy for me to admit it is really distinct. Iā€™m just not sure if itā€™s distinctiveness is exactly wowing enough for my preference.

I donā€™t mean to be hard on the Moonlight with my thoughts. It really is everything I expected from IEM and ultimately what I wanted one to be as my palette refined through my young journey. It plays my whole library without any weakness but, also doesnā€™t add anything special to its presentation.

Quite possibly that may end up being itā€™s special sauce. That itā€™s just there and does everything I ask and subsequently forgot Iā€™m listening to it. Maybe thereā€™s no IEM with enough special sauce to be that for my library. This one though is going to need more sunsets to see if the Moonlight still glows.

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i think there is kinda a bit of a gap in the 200 dollar or so rangeā€¦ like with the common 100 range everyone says just get the aria or titan S or so, and if you go into the devoted to chifi >300 range you get to ā€œbuy a blessing 2ā€, but if you want something in the 150-250 range there isnā€™t much that is a clear winner in the priceā€¦ crin states the timeless but the planar timbres kinda weird areaā€¦ hence why there are more different recommendations like the olina or the shuoer or timeless or whatever elseā€¦ and it sucks when i am in that 200 range of ā€œi have had a 100 dollar IEM but i donā€™t want to spend as much as my main headphones on an IEMā€ (maybe if i upgrade to a 500+ headphone maybe but not now)

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Pray to the audiophile gods that Elixir is really good then because that could be an option in the $200 range

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eh maybe i just go down to the 100 dollar range and stick there since there are so many options in 200 and Iā€™m not ready to go dusk for 300 dollarsā€¦ the IEM space in general is kinda weird for meā€¦ i use them often but will also immediately use a headphone when i canā€¦ the upgrade plan for me is just kinda confused

Penon Vortex coming in 2 weeks $200ish thatā€™s exciting.

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3D Velocity Transducer diaphragm is composed of beryllium-coated interweaving layers of multi-walled carbon nanotube sheets . . .
stronger pole magnets and a completely copper voice coil actuator

ThieAudio Elixer better be good with words joined together like that. I like seeing all these upcoming single DD IEMs.

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Tony reviewed it and said itā€™s good but not as good as any competitor (Hana , Kato , Olina, Oxygen)

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