I simply cannot believe they had a meeting and thought "You know, we’re putting out this IEM that is in the family of last year’s hot flavor; the tuning has no hype on it anymore, and the cheapest version of it just came out for $60. What should we charge for it?
Double it!"
And nobody said this is a terrible idea. I reject this notion!
I think they’re really relying heavily on the fact that they do look great #1 and I think in my opinion at least, Dunu know how to package accessories. The build quality of everything included in the box looks top notch, plus, those new horn/cylinder style tips look very interesting.
I am just being the devils advocate here, I think Dunu is still mad for pricing it so high 
OMG, YES! THIS IS IT!!!
(They won’t let me reply in exclamation, so I’m putting this bs sentence in to beat the algorithm. Can I just say this is ridiculous?)
One thing im worried about with how crazy cheap chifi is getting, is the long term effect it has on brands and their survival (tied to both popularity and profit). For example, just a year ago, that price would have been fine and pretty competitive (depends on sound of course)…imagine if Dunu has been working on it for that long, only for it to launch when prices as crazy low as they are right now. Makes me wonder if this will just deter brands from doing long term R&D and just focusing on pumping out new iems asap.
I see what you mean - To some degree, and I don’t really know honestly, but it does feel like this is what happened with the Moondrop Stellaris. I mean, I understand that some people do actually enjoy brighter leaning sets but, I’ve yet to see a single positive review of the Stellaris besides maybe one over on Head-Fi (I won’t name any names). I really feel like Moondrop felt the pressure of the Planar landscape and somewhat rushed the set to the shelves to compete with the competition.
yes, that rush to bring out that new planar is definitely one (short term) issue of following hype-trains.
Although with the Stellaris, I am leaning more towards Moondrop tuning it like it is, intentionally. Knowing how preferences are in mainland China.
I see your point, but in this Dunu case, they already had Titan S in this segment. I can actually understand trying to not undercut it.
But this tuning is undercutting it already anyway. And if it doesn’t, it kneecapped itself
It’s called beta testing + good marketing and crowd.
Stellaris is just the begining, if I had to bet. Hell, all of the planars are.
Regarding Kima, the tuning looks great but same as Olina SE for around the same price. That’s a tough battle to pick.
KZ tactic, throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks. 
(it works.)
Definitely, companies are only just finding planars that work in iems and are using either the same ones as others or are trying to find ways to make it cheaper.
So its likely we will see a definite way of making them cheaper even more (probably either by using the DD voice coil method or a smaller driver to reduce the amount of silver (among other mats) used). While others are trying to push them on a SQ perspective.
A general update for the community following @MMag05’s experiences with RMA process with Letshuoer and @shouer’s subsequent response regarding a revamped RMA process.
I just sent my EJ07s back to the factory for a repair today (rattling / loose drivers in right IEM). Joseph was great in his communication throughout. After providing my address details, he printed a label for me. I packed up my EJs in the carrying case and found the smallest box possible. A note was provided for technician regarding issues and stuck the label on the box. No customs declaration was required on my end…just dropped off at UPS. I was advised an invoice will be sent to me for repair and shipping at a later time. So far so good on the process, albeit we’re in the very early stages.
Wish me luck!
On a side note: @shouer has reassured me that if the IEMs get lost in transit, a new replacement set will be sent.
Yet again cancelled another pre order. I just can’t bring myself to buy anything over $300 without being able to listen first. It really sucks i’m in the worst part of the US to be a fan of IEMs 
Every buy has to be a blind buy and I’ve unfortunately returned about 10 different IEMs at this point so i’m tired of buying just to not like it enough to keep them smh
I know following my post Letshouer made one about changes coming. Seems like they were going to change procedures regarding return of warranties which, included that they would prepare the label. Sure it was a culmination of more than my post just the timing lined up. Under my return it’s my impression I wouldn’t have been covered because I prepared the shipping label and choice the carrier.
For the return of my repair @shuoer informed me that if I used their carrier it would be covered if lost. Them preparing the label had been mentioned in the post. It’s great to see them going the extra step covering lost items. Might take a little longer to get back but, at least it’s covered. Between your return and mine it looks like the change is implemented. Which I think is awesome on their part.
Maybe the whole issue was a miscommunication. That’s not meant as a jab to them sometimes it just happens with no ill intent. What I can say is during the import and now on the return they came through. Changes have been made that will hopefully smoothen the process for everyone in the future.
I believe they righted the situation. Surely not everyone here will agree with me. As some had already pointed out on my first post. Could it have been handled differently on my end? Looking back it’s quite possible. For that there’s nothing I can do now except offer an apology to Joseph and the crew. And say thank you for handling the situation and looking at ways to improve procedures for the future.
My tastes in music are different, but I do have all but the OG Fan from Penon. I like and listen to all three. The Vortex is the smallest of the three, and the best-sounding single DD IEM I’ve heard… it’s just excellent all-around. The Serial is larger, and has more pronounced bass than the Vortex, yet the mids and treble are still very good. Both the Vortex and the Serial are comfortable for my peculiarly dinky ears using ePro SS tips.
The Fan 2 is something else (at least for me). It’s the largest of the three, and has a wider nozzle. I couldn’t get a comfortable fit using ePro tips, tried several others, and settled on the smallest Sedna Earfit Xelastec tips, Those work for me. The biggest difference is sound stage (if I understand what that means). The Fan 2 delivers a much larger (wider?) sound stage than any IEM I’ve heard… it surprised me because it does seem as though I’m in a large space. The Bass is present, and thumps when it needs to, but doesn’t overwhelm the mids and treble which, to my ears, tick all the right boxes. I seem to be hearing things in familiar music that I don’t recall noticing before, and don’t think I’m just imagining it.
The Fan 2 is a little too large for me to wear while walking around, so I go with either the Vortex or Serial for that. And though it’s still early days with the Fan 2, it’s what I’ve been listening with at home most of the time since receiving them.
QKZxHBB First Impressions: (By an idiot)
Did someone say they wanted my first impression thoughts on the QKZxHBBs!? Well since you asked!
Packaging:
Pretty straight forward and simple packaging, comes in a small plastic box with a cable, the IEMs themselves, and bud bits. These are just $20 boys, so of course the packaging isn’t going to be all flashy and fancy.
Build: 4/5 (IEM), 0/5 (cable)
To be honest, these buds online didn’t really look that good to me, they looked like cheap buds trying too hard. In person…holy crap it’s a completely different story. They are built fantastically, and look awesome. I’m genuinely shocked at how nice they are. Solid build, honestly if you told me they were over $100 I wouldn’t bat an eye.
Cable:
Now, while the IEMs themselves are made gloriously, I absolutely hate the cable. It is the complete opposite to the IEMs. It looks cheap, feels cheap, and is 120% built cheap. They fight to stay a shape the most. The KB Ear 2’s cable is 5x better. The ear hooks don’t work no matter what I do, so when wearing them the loops just hang off my ears, ironically making it actually harder for the IEMs to stay in. I just grabbed the cable from the Olina SE and used it instead. I would much rather have these cost like $30 and we get a decent cable, cause it’s like giving someone a gold bar wrapped in used toilet paper.
Comfort/Fit: 3/5
Pretty standard fit I’d say. They don’t feel heavy in the ears and overall are comfy. One thing I wanna say though is in my left ear doesn’t feel as good with these in. It’s nothing painful or annoying, just noticeable when put in. Does seem to disappear after a few minutes of use though. When I put on other IEMs like the FH3 or Kai, they feel nicer in the ears. Overall they feel fine I’d say. Nothing really to complain about.
Sound: 4/5 (5/5 for their price)
First day of use so opinions might change.
What the heck? These should be illegal. Why do they sound so good for $20? The moment I turned on music it was surprising. I don’t hear any muddy sound from them, but the bass slaps you around wonderfully. It’s punchy and sub bass doesn’t disappoint. Mids are a bit quieter, but still enjoyable enough and clear sounding. Treble doesn’t feel that sharp or fatiguing. It plays Metal suspiciously well. Again, what the heck?
Overall:
Probably the best value IEMs out there, at least from what I’ve tried. If you like bass, these are just ‘chef kiss’. They are easily built like a pair of $100 IEMs, and even sound the part. I compared them to my other $20-$30 things and it was genuinely sad lol. Those sounded insanely muddy and muffled in comparison. Currently gonna be comparing them to my higher end IEMs. The fact that I’m even saying that is enough you need to know to buy these. If you do get them, I really recommend getting a better cable for them though. You’ll thank me later. Even if these aren’t gonna be my main IEMs I use. Just for the fact they cost as little as they do, they’re a keeper. Also dat bass tho.
I’ll definitely keep that in mind. A large fit and huge sound stage does feel like won’t be for me. But I still would like to try the Fan 2 once I get the chance. I can’t wait for 11/11!
I found the cable on Titan S average at best
Hellooo, i have a question… my 7hz zero’s right side, the metal plate thing on the shell is loose, is the metal plate a plating on the shell or is it connected to the shell’s opening? i noticed that to open the iem the opening is between the 2 pin but just to be sure that the metal plate isnt aslo a hole to the inside/driver, so that there wont be any incoherent sound (not that i noticed). i dont know of any pics taking zero apart so i asked here… thanks!
That’s fair - never really looked into the titan S as much as their other releases.
Symphonium emailed me asking to confirm my cancellation but I decided to keep the pre order in place since I shit the bed with the SA6 Ultra 
