yo what 400 bucks, I’m hella in
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I heard Pilgrim today:
Elysian Pilgrim (prototype) - Neutral-warm leaning. Bright vocals. Good technicals. Nice bass slam. It’s fine and I may like it on more things then Anni.
Other thoughts at my thread: Goober's Journey Into the IEM Game or "Why Are You Not As Good As....?" - #1673 by GooberBM
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Yeah that’s an interesting config 
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He did hint…
Maaaaybe there’s a third collab coming out. Maybe! But let’s say I do have a third collab coming out (which I may or may not have in the works), which name should it have?
Vote:
A) DaVinci
B) Aurelius
C) Newton
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That looks an awful lot like a mosaic’d Dunu logo to me…
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I reckon that looks like Dunu’s logo. I wonder what Timmy has cooking up now
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My current take on collabs:
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Cool when reviewer has a well known sound preference / ability to convey that sound.
I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong with collabs. I’d like to think most reviewers are genuine hobbyists to some degree, and who wouldn’t want to tune / spec their own IEM?
It’s gets murky when you give up the integrity that goes hand in hand with your title as a reviewer.
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Just experience based not philosophical. The Olina SE was a great IEM in my opinion but I can’t think of a single other collab I’d rec over a standard release, out of all that I’ve tried. So not holding my breath.
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Ah good point, hopefully as reviewers continue to get recognized by manufacturers we’ll see some more interesting standalone / new collabs vs. Revisions.
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With most collabs being on the “safe” side, I was hoping more brands would try and see what sticks as experiments
I don’t mind collabs because most collaborators don’t stray from their preferred sound and don’t offer a variety of tunings. So, I know what I’m getting based on their sonic preferences.
For example, Crin tends to lean Harman, with treble roll-off. HBB loves bass. Neither is my jam. But I like a lot of Timmy’s tuning preferences, so I keep an eye on his collabs.
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I’ve never been one to dislikes collabs in general, I just think to myself, hey more IEMs that will sound good
I’ve been buying iems for as long as I can remember on amazon so my ears have been trained to enjoy whatever ungodly iem I bought that’s wack so seeing the hobby as it is now, man it’s nice knowing I can buy something random and genuinely not have to dupe my brain anymore
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As an iem buyer, I just bought the KZ Symphony and it was total garbage. Not even KZ levels but just sounded underwater and terrible. If Timmy, Chris, Crin, got a hold of it it would have been better, I’m certain of it.
Are collabs always better? No, as I think there is a ton of crap out there. But I think it allows you to know that for whatever reason the collaborator likes that tuning a bit and that is important. It’s not a guarantee an iem is good, but I think a better chance in general like an additional level of QC.
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I go back and forth on collabs. I do think historically they have pushed the industry forward in a positive way, however I haven’t heard a single collab that I would put as the best in their respective price range. Hell, if you look at the Top 5 thread, most people don’t have a single collab in their list
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in some weird way I enjoy that they usually end up that way, they play like 2nd or even 3rd fiddle to the actual best and the choices is up to the consumer on what you lean towards.
It’s nice that it makes you go back and forth, if it becomes stagnant where they’re always just “eh” or always the best, that’s when I’d be very worried
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This sums it up for me too. I’m not against them, but experience has taught me not to be excited about them.
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Hmm that could be because we’re in an echo chamber 
cause most places have at least one of 7hz crinacle and truthear crinacle as daily driver especially in lists under $50
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