JAY's audio memes (and reviews/ranking too I guess)

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People can have preferences with reviewers just like IEMS.

If the man doesn’t like Mark, let him not like him lol.

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Moon-drop living up to their name alright

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There is a difference between not agreeing with someone’s subjective opinion in this screwed up hobby and arguing why and calling someone "either dumb or deaf’ and asking him to go “f*** off” simply because of this opinions’ misalignment, don’t you think?

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Who are you quoting? Looking back I don’t believe @SoundEater or anyone said anything along those lines lol

I would not bother quoting if that was not a quote brother

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Ohhh I must’ve missed that from another thread

Ya that’s a bit much :joy:

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“Widely closed ears”- This is what YouTubers like Mark suggest. The obvious advantages of an IEM cannot be disputed. Mark is intentional and it shows in every word he says. And yes, you really have to be deaf not to hear that sound.

Yo, can’t we all just get along? :rofl:

There has been a DUMB amount of tension in this forum the last few weeks I feel like. What is happening!? :sweat_smile:

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There are a lot of reviewers I don’t like. But I don’t stomp my feet up and down in public forums screaming for attention with my dislike for them like some 11-year-old who didn’t get a new bike or Nintendo for Christmas.

Dude needs to grow the f*ck up.

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Whoever passes by here and reads what I wrote and starts defending the great YouTuber Mark. But people don’t see that he is wrong… Too bad for them. :grinning:

There is no “wrong” about subjective analysis of sound. Now, if Mark said the Estrella was a single-BA set that was open-back, then he would be “wrong.”

But just because your interpretation of the sound doesn’t match his doesn’t make him “wrong.” For example, there are many people who don’t care for the AFUL MagicOne. I love it. Does that make them “wrong?” Not at all. We just have different preferences and may hear things differently due to age, ear shape, etc.

Mark has been a dependable, fair member of the audio reviewing community for a while. He gets viewers because of his fairness and transparency.

Plus, he’s probably forgotten more IEMs than you’ve heard. So, I know in whom I’ll trust, chief.

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I do agree that Mark has always been a very dependable reviewer in the community who does not seem to have an agenda of any kind, which is probably the rarest thing in the hobby as of today. There’s less than a handful of reviewers who don’t have stock in other sectors of the hobby that could influence what they say. Mark, on the surface at least, doesn’t seem to have any influence and generally tells it like it is with his IEM reviews.

NOW, with that being said, him not liking the Estrella is totally fine with me, I will happily accept that. His opinion on the set doesn’t influence my love for the Estrella in anyway. When I love an IEM, the last thing I’m looking for is validation from a stranger on YouTube or Head-Fi… I do find it a bit weird that he prefaced his review with what he said and then proceeded to not compare the Estrella with any like-priced IEM as he usually does. If my memory is serving me correctly, he always does that. He lines up 3 or 4 other IEMs, compares them to the main subject of the vid and gives you the full story. He spent all of 35 seconds on this section and blew through it… I’m just not sure how to feel about that.

However, Mark can’t be wrong about a subjective stance like Paul said, that’s an impossibility. But then again, Mark being wrong is also SoundEater’s opinion too so… idk :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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But the question now is. Why watch a reviewer you don’t like or relate to musical tuning wise? Furthermore, why keep going on about it after you said what you had to say?

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I think opinions are healthy and people are more than welcome to have discussions on it. It just becomes childish and tiresome when it becomes an obsession and insults are made because one person does not agree with you. Soundeater keeps going with it. It seems like he is looking for validation on his purchase.

He could have easily gave his opinion and why he disagrees with marks review and left it at that, but it is a constant with him and he results to insults which is not productive

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Amen.

My question for @VIVIDICI_111: Would you offer such support, even tacit, for a forum denizen who was attacking a reviewer who had less-than-gushing feedback for an IEM other than the Estrella?

Or is this guy just your Slavic surrogate attack dog? :slight_smile:

Sorry, dude, but you have a history of VERY thin skin with any criticism of the Estrella. One doesn’t need to look far to find it. But to be fair, you have chilled mightily in the last few weeks, which is a credit to you.

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Totally agree! I’m all about everyone being able to share their opinions without getting attacked or insulted!

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Me trying to catch up on all the threads. Then wondering what the hell happened in the past few weeks.

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My dude, I’ve never had a private conversation with soundeater before on this thread, nor do I know him personally, so him liking the Estrella and disliking Mark has nothing to do with me. Hard reach there buddy.

Although I do agree soundeater was being a bit aggressive, but everyone’s personality and way of expressing themselves are different… So me pointing out your hypocrisy when you’ve been preaching about allowing people to have their free-opinions, and then now having an issue with someone for speaking their mind about a reviewer you like, has nothing to do with Estrella.

No I don’t actually. You just have selective bias.

I can name 3 people off the top of my head that didn’t vibe with the Estrella and that I had no issues with: Mike Bruce from shortbus, Sidesalad, literally Crinacle, and others that I’ve conversed with privately. So, no, when you say “any criticism” that’s just straight up a lie.

Now, the people I did run into issues with are the ones that either blatantly lied about the IEM, aka TDM (got called on about it in his on comment section by his viewer), or ones that were a bit odd - in this case Mark giving the Gaea a 4 star at $1300 when it is WAY more aggressive in the uppermids/treble. If you just take a look at the graph you can see why I find that a bit puzzling, especially when I’ve heard both of them and the Gaea is more aggressive than the Estrella:

So I just found that a bit odd, but aside from that I didn’t say much when it came to Mark other than his rating of the Gaea and Estrella is inconsistent, which it is based on his nitpicks of the Estrella. I do think Mark is a great reviewer, and maybe his rating of the Gaea was too high before, who knows, I think both should either be 3 stars, or 4 stars, but that doesn’t really matter.

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