But the question now is. Why watch a reviewer you don’t like or relate to musical tuning wise? Furthermore, why keep going on about it after you said what you had to say?
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I think opinions are healthy and people are more than welcome to have discussions on it. It just becomes childish and tiresome when it becomes an obsession and insults are made because one person does not agree with you. Soundeater keeps going with it. It seems like he is looking for validation on his purchase.
He could have easily gave his opinion and why he disagrees with marks review and left it at that, but it is a constant with him and he results to insults which is not productive
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Amen.
My question for @VIVIDICI_111: Would you offer such support, even tacit, for a forum denizen who was attacking a reviewer who had less-than-gushing feedback for an IEM other than the Estrella?
Or is this guy just your Slavic surrogate attack dog? 
Sorry, dude, but you have a history of VERY thin skin with any criticism of the Estrella. One doesn’t need to look far to find it. But to be fair, you have chilled mightily in the last few weeks, which is a credit to you.
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Totally agree! I’m all about everyone being able to share their opinions without getting attacked or insulted!
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Me trying to catch up on all the threads. Then wondering what the hell happened in the past few weeks.
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My dude, I’ve never had a private conversation with soundeater before on this thread, nor do I know him personally, so him liking the Estrella and disliking Mark has nothing to do with me. Hard reach there buddy.
Although I do agree soundeater was being a bit aggressive, but everyone’s personality and way of expressing themselves are different… So me pointing out your hypocrisy when you’ve been preaching about allowing people to have their free-opinions, and then now having an issue with someone for speaking their mind about a reviewer you like, has nothing to do with Estrella.
No I don’t actually. You just have selective bias.
I can name 3 people off the top of my head that didn’t vibe with the Estrella and that I had no issues with: Mike Bruce from shortbus, Sidesalad, literally Crinacle, and others that I’ve conversed with privately. So, no, when you say “any criticism” that’s just straight up a lie.
Now, the people I did run into issues with are the ones that either blatantly lied about the IEM, aka TDM (got called on about it in his on comment section by his viewer), or ones that were a bit odd - in this case Mark giving the Gaea a 4 star at $1300 when it is WAY more aggressive in the uppermids/treble. If you just take a look at the graph you can see why I find that a bit puzzling, especially when I’ve heard both of them and the Gaea is more aggressive than the Estrella:
So I just found that a bit odd, but aside from that I didn’t say much when it came to Mark other than his rating of the Gaea and Estrella is inconsistent, which it is based on his nitpicks of the Estrella. I do think Mark is a great reviewer, and maybe his rating of the Gaea was too high before, who knows, I think both should either be 3 stars, or 4 stars, but that doesn’t really matter.
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The Gaea looks pretty different tbh. Yes it is true that the gain is higher (and has less bass shelf) but the shape is VERY smooth compared to the Estrella which has a more noticeable peak at around 4k, this smoothness CAN make it so that despite the gain, it wont feel as agressive overall. It is the same thing Sony did with their XBA-N3 and what Simgot did with the EM6L.
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The GAEA is not a “smooth” IEM brother 
It is not the same as the EM6L at all.
The uppermids boost was a lot of people’s main nitpick with it, and at the same time the aggressiveness was also its selling point since it just feeds you so much treble and uppermids. It’s also MUCH leaner and makes the uppermids/treble come off way more energetic where both the EM6L an Estrella is balanced out by the low-end.
Trust me, once you’ve heard it you’d know, you can’t forget something like that 
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The only person here who has a right to be mad about unfair reviews is @VIVIDICI_111. Because he is the only person here who materially suffers from people misrepresenting his product. Can we please move on y’all?
Yeah they both look similarly smooth but the Gaea has a much earlier pinna rise.
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My point is, the Gaea is VERY different from the Estrella, so saying that you like one of them (the one with more gain but SMOOTHER shape) does not mean that you should like the other (less gain but less smooth shape).
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No one is saying they are lol, but the Gaea with that extra gain+extra uppermids+treble+leaner low-end is more aggressive is all I’m saying
Hypocrisy? That’s adorable. You’re not seeing the forest through the trees.
I have ZERO problem with Soundeater’s opinion on sound. He’s entitled to it. Opinions are like assholes – everybody has one.
But my problems are the personal insults toward reviewers and Soundeater’s continued insistence that Mark and other reviewers who don’t jizz over Estrella are somehow “wrong.” That’s beyond immature. Sound is subjective, as you know – “right” and “wrong” are different for everyone, and Soundeater clearly doesn’t have a grip on any subtlety that is so necessary in this hobby.
Reviews are not binary. Good ones don’t consist of “this sucks” or “this is great.” Good reviews are nuanced and balanced while still giving an opinion.
Regarding criticism, you went pretty hard challenging Superchonk and Andy in this forum for small nitpicks in their early reviews, I believe pre-release. Maybe you forgot that. I don’t know any of these guys. So, yeah, I exaggerated by saying your cackles raised over every negative review, but it was more than just one or two guys.
I have/had no idea about your beef with TDM. But you never should have let it spill into the public forum. Best handled in PMs with a simple forum acknowledgment that you disagree with him and his analysis and that you’ll contact him via PM, as there clearly is personal previous between the two of you. Nobody wins in a playground shitfight between two adults in public.
Dirty laundry never should be hung in public. Others’ mileage may vary.
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Please define what are “unfair” and “misrepresentation?”
If it’s factual information such as number and type of drivers, hell, yes. You are correct. If it’s the interpretation of the sound, you are VERY wide of the mark and don’t really understand what criticism and the review process are all about.
Then again, and go ahead and call me old, the binary, thin-skinned nature of many young people today leads to this kind of “hater” mentality. We’re either supposed to love or hate things, and if you offer one morsel of criticism, you’re a “hater.”
There’s a color you all need to learn, kids: It’s called gray. There are many shades of it, especially in audio reviews.
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You literally just contradicted yourself. That’s not how freedom of opinion works. You can’t say “people can feel how they want about sound”, but not continue that sentiment with reviewers. Not how it works. We can go back and forth whether or not SE take is right or wrong, but at the end of the day that’s his opinion.
I think you’re the one who forgot, or again, maybe because of selective bias, but everyone was teasing Superchonks about him calling a lot of his IEMs “v-shaped” like the freakin CINNO for example
Andy was a misunderstanding that he addressed himself in the comments of the review because lots of people were confused on him saying it’s analytical (which people thought he meant cold sounding) but he meant just very good at retrieving details.
Right and here you are letting it all out in public If you have an issue with me just PM me before making things up like how soundeater is my “attack dog”.
Ok I think you’re actually just trolling at this point because you’re literally doing what you’re complaining about You can’t make this shit up. Ya I’m done with this. Moving on 
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No, I did not contradict myself. My point is that objection to an opinion on sound is fine. But saying a reviewer is objectively “wrong” and can “go f*ck themselves” (paraphrased) is over the top, immature and not part of the discourse of a forum full of adults. I expect that crap on Reddit and X – not here.
My discussion here is not “dirty laundry.” I’m not attacking you based on any personal beef like you have with TDM. I don’t know you. I’m also not saying to “go f*ck yourself.” We’re having a conversation. Better in PMs? Perhaps. But I didn’t think this went beyond the normal boundaries of discussion. Was never an attack. Your mileage and interpretation of nuance may vary.
Am I a “hater” or a hypocrite to you? Maybe. Don’t care, either.
And yes, the “surrogate attack dog” comment was harsh. Sincere apologies for that.
Like you, I’m moving on …
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