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It is pretty crazy overall. I did not even mention 4080/4090 because demand is still very high, and basically good luck finding one, let alone what you will pay. All good for those who can fork over the cash I suppose. I will pass.

Yknow, I built my current rig when the 1080 was so new, I was pissed that the 1080ti released after I paid for the 1080 - I just didn’t have the familiarity with the product releases since it had been more than 10 years since my prior rig

I am still operating with my de-lidded 7700k with that same 1080 (non ti) and it runs beautifully

I have no reason to build a replacement. I am getting very smooth framerates at 1440 in the games I play (which admittedly are mostly not any newer than this rig is, but that’s a topic for a whole other rant).

So no, I guess I’m not at all excited about the consumer abuse coming out of companies that have gotten too big for their britches and can’t remember that it is on our shoulders that they grew to market dominance.

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recently upgraded from a 1070ti to a 6750xt for some newer games I’ve been playing at 1440p, if I was just gaming I wouldn’t be looking at next gen but dabbling a bit in workloads that make my GPU cry lol, doubt I’ll consider Nvidia probably going to trade up for a higher tier AMD card

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Yeah, I did the same thing a little while back and upgraded from a 1080ti to a 6950xt when they fell below $600 new. I will most likely be keeping the 6950xt for a few years, but I doubt it will last as long as the 1080ti did. :rofl:

The only thing I am interested nowadays with hardware is the hope that old Xeon workstations to become cheaper. A few months ago you were able to get a barebones Dell T7820 workstation for 200 bucks with like 64 gigs of ram but seems everybody not knows the tricks prices are over 500. LGA 3647 is officially End of Service from intel and you can grab some 20 core plus cpus for cheap perfect for a homelab.

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With all that being said, when it comes to a CPU that is like 1080Ti levels of legendary? In my opinion that would be the 5800X3D, it’s still a fucking beast of a CPU and I have it still. I don’t think I have a reason upgrading from it besides of my current rig getting all destroyed or something.

And the 3080 that I got back then as a grad gift? Yeah I am still ok with it, I am not changing it any time soon.

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well 5800X3d is only 2 years old and was just recently discontinued :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I’ve got a Commodore VIC-20. Games are kind of pixely and colors are rudimentary with sounds being sort of Atari 2600’esq. I do have trouble finding some of the modern titles ported to it, but other than that it is OK I guess.

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I never bothered to look at what the graphics situation on this newer HP Omen I am running the desktop system on. I knew they were pretty darned good. Turns out this has a GeForce RTX-3060 laptop GPU in it. I reckon that explains it. For what I am doing with this system, this is all I realistically need. This has been a really good laptop overall.

I’m interested in the 50 series just for what it will do to drive prices down on all the others. I’m sticking with the most power efficient setup due to thermals. I had a 3080 water cooled EVGA and it was like having a hair dryer on low blowing in graphics mode and temps in an upstairs office skyrocketed. Now I use an undervolted AMD 6700 drawing 143 watts max and 5800x CPU. Runs Destiny 2 74-90 FPS in 3440x1440 and really happy. If the new generation drops prices down the line I might upgrade a few steps. I heard people who just paid full retail for the 4090 are going to feel ripped off with the performance differences.
I’ll still never go back to Nvidia after the way they treated gamers during the bitcoin years. They had no qualms about playing favorites and shipping most of their cards to miners. If the 50’s make the next step up the AMD food chain drop, will go for it.

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Nvidia doesn’t really lower prices much
from the sound of it AMD is going for another 480/580 generation (bang for buck kings) to get their market share up

Yeah, which is unfortunate for that CPU was one of the best decision that I have ever made buying for I am not like the others here who have access to more reasonable prices to PC parts therefore they don’t mind upgrading to AM5. This is why I am one of the frugal PC users here who wouldn’t mind remaining on the platform for years to come. AM4 is one of the best ever and I am hoping for AM5 as well, for there will be a time that I am going to get to that point while the others are now at AM6 :rofl:

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last or couple gens ago for a big discount is a valid strat!

It’s always gonna be the valid strategy nowadays, and if I have heard correctly the latest CPUs from both sides are not much of an improvement overall, thus there are some people who still buy the 7800X3D instead of the latest one which is the 9800X3D.

Plus the latest Intel CPU, according to Steve is an another waste of sand and I cannot even remember the damn name, 285K or something? Yeah it’s a waste of sand.

You know what I wouldn’t mind improving? Intel ARC and AMD Radeon GPUs, now those would be a game changer.

The 9800X3D isn’t out yet. Only the non-X3D chips are for Zen5, and you are correct that they really aren’t an improvement over their Zen4 counterparts for gaming. They have some uplift in some workstation tasks, and are a little more friendly to higher speed memory, but Zen5 let a lot of people down.

He didn’t go that far with them. He said they were launched too early, and are priced too high, but unlike Rocket Lake they do have some use cases. The biggest issue with Arrow Lake, besides the price and absolutely stupid CPU names, is people’s expectations. That they still hold pretty even with 14th Gen perf-wise given the clock speed reduction, loss of Hyper-Threading, redesigned ring bus, and the move to their tile packaging is kind of impressive. I thought they would perform worse than they do, all things considered.

9000’s X3D’s are supposed to be overclockable unlike previous gens

At least from the hardware unboxed video testing the intel cpus, If I remember correctly it seems there is massive inconsistencies with versions of windows and such which hopefully gets improved by updates. Seems like it can be on par with their previous flagship in best case scenarios with much lower power compared to previous gen. Not a bad launching point if you take into account that they basically redesigned the whole thing, only thing you can say at least now other than the inconsistency is that Zen is still more efficient. Zen 1 when it launched wasn’t the best at many tasks definitely when it was single threaded performance compared to even older intel chips at that time but overtime they refined the architecture. Main concern I have for intel though is that seems leadership seems hectic and doesn’t seem to have changed much.

Alright thanks for the clarification and the correction, I am at least learning something every day. Also yeah the new one from Intel is just overpriced and they have not been that very uhhh… for the lack of a better term, innovative or something?

But man with the video benchmarks that he has shown on that video, it’s so funny to see when the 5800X3D is still on top of its game and is able to compete with the latest CPUs. I am so happy that I got this CPU.

9800X3D dropped

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I watched the one with Steve’s video and I am so happy that the 5800X3D is still on the charts lol. Also yeah this CPU is confirmed a game changer, I might migrate to AM5 once AM6 is out or I could just keep using my 5800X3D until it just stops working as intended or slows down.

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