yeah pretty much all the X3D CPU’s are bottlenecked by even a 4090 in gaming so next gen GPU’s might make the newer ones more worthwhile
Yeah, I have no reason to upgrade from y 5800x3D either. It kicked off the X3D line, and it has proven to be a good investment to keep my AM4 platform for a while longer. It makes you wonder if it was possible to place the cache on the bottom of the 5800x at the time, how much faster would the 5800x3D be with the extra thermal headroom?! 
Im happy for the wrong reason, i gotta friend who is an upgrade-aholic , with a little luck i’ll buy his system off him
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Speaking about the 5800X3D, I have decided to modify some things about it when it comes to its temps, for it was running too hot for me on stock. Hence I have to use the Curve Optimization method in order to ease up the temps and as well as improve the performance as well.
I am glad that my Deepcool Assassin III is still doing a solo job cooling it, even thought I know for sure that I am going to need a CPU cooler that is essentially better than I currently have. But hey, it gets the job done cooling it and not bad for me who is living in a country that can go hot and humid.
You will notice cooler temps and pick up some fps in games…FroznHood has a really good vid on youtube for those of you that don’t know how to do it…
I hesitate a little to bring this up here, but here goes…
I’m a simple guy with simple needs. At least I like to think so. Not a gamer at all. I guess at the computer I’d call myself a web surfer, typist, spreadsheet master, reader, and music librarian. A little bit of a photo archivist, but at a very, very basic level. Foobar 2000 and Qobuz for music.
I bought a Lenovo desktop around 2017, and I’m using an Acer monitor I inherited from my dad. Just an everyday, lovingly used consumer rig. But I guess Windows 11 is here, whether we like it or not. And Microsoft tells me it won’t run on my machine. My experience with Windows goes back before pre-Windows 95. I have an Android phone that I treat as more of a necessary evil than anything, and an iPad Mini for YouTube, Netflix, reading, and “games” like Tetris and match-style time-wasting mindless puzzles to do while listening to music. The iPad is great, but my solemn vow is not to use an Apple product for desktop computing.
So my question is this: buy a new machine, bite the bullet, and try to de-bloat Windows 11, or keep this machine and wander into the vast, arcane, smug, bewildering world of Linux? The noncommercial aspect of Linux really intrigues me, but I don’t want to be constantly struggling with workarounds, compromises, and hassle to accomplish computing tasks that the rest of the world takes for granted. I use Open Office at home instead of the Microsoft products, but they’re a tiny bit clunky. Firefox is my trusted browser. Microsoft has worked for me for more than 30 years, but I’ve become really bitter about profit-driven, ad-fueled, performance-sapping bloatware.
Let the harangues commence!
I think this is a reasonable place to put a request, keep this in mind for what I write since I run fedora linux on personal laptop, dualboot windows 10 and Arch linux on my main desktop, and windows 11 on work laptop. Overall I am a power user and tinker a decent amount.
A new machine could be a decent upgrade if you dont have a i5 or i7 from that time or SSD. 2017 is when AMD first struck back with new cpus and the landscape has changed in 2024. Since you use light workloads you might not see too many massive improvements in day to day tasks over your old machine but it should last you a good decade perhaps if you were to upgrade.
Windows 11 debloat and modification to make it run decently takes a bit of work and is a pain in many aspects. Overall my time with windows 11 has not been the smoothest with inconsistent performance and that’s with a new business thinkpad. Onedrive is honestly absolute pain to take out and ends up with so many things connected to it that it just a menace and all the random other stuff installed a pain to remove. It getting harder to unlink devices or not have an account in windows 11 which is extremely annoying. You can use something like Windows Utility from Chris Titus to speed some things up and remove things but microsoft can make a patch undoing some work. I think his script allows you to make a custom iso so that you can just have a setup preloaded so that it is a faster install.
If you want to squeeze out more out of your current setup with linux for daily use it can be nearly a direct transition though there is some big caveats. Alternative in linux is often the way it goes however even as an avid user. You already use Open Office so are not locked with microsoft products on that part and firefox is well supported on linux. Biggest issues would be music players as Foobar doesn’t have an app for linux so you would need to use Strawberry music player or Fooyin if you want to customize it like foobar but it still not as good in plugin support but should play all the file types and theme just fine. Qobuz if you use the web version is works great but that is the main way you are going to use it on linux or through strawberry. The good news is the apps are usually found in the common app stores of a distro or on flathub store so you do not have to play around with terminal, similar to the windows store but not as annoying. Also hunting audio drivers for DACs can be annoying. Photopea is a good photoshop option in web so if you want to edit some photos it is super good. Its become less of an issue of being locked to certain distros for applications and something like Linux Mint would be very familiar since you primarily used windows before. A little bit more adventurous then try something like pop os.
I recommend to experiment first try using a virtual machine to test out linux. That way you can see if it is right for you and if something is buggy or difficult to find a solution for. Look up VMware or virtualbox to see how it works and assign the vm with a good amount of ram and some storage.
Direct VMware Download link since Broadcom is a stupid company if you want a decently easy to use and setup VM software:
https://softwareupdate.vmware.com/cds/vmw-desktop/player/17.6.0/24238078/windows/core/VMware-player-17.6.0-24238078.exe.tar
Either way good luck on finding your solution, hope the long message does not bore you
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His utility tool in my opinion is now essential to every new Windows user today for I am just not an overall fan of Microsoft’s latest shenanigans and as well as the stock version of their OS. It is especially frustrating when you want to use you own PC with no issues, but Microsoft still insists that users should have their bloatware even though we know for sure it’s not gonna matter in the long run for it only hinders the user’s overall usage and experience.
There will be a time for me to just give it up and eventually switch to Linux, because I don’t see Windows 12 any better, and 11 was already a pain in the ass to use when stock and not having its bloatware removed. Also 10 was doing fine, only for them to eventually end its support, which sucks.
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I’m not bored at all! Thank you so much. Definitely going to explore Mint and maybe Ubuntu with a VM setup. It’ll be an investment of time and effort to break away from Windows, but it sounds like the time has come. Looks like my Intel chip is an i5… I believe that the hardware for my use case is plenty sufficient, but all of the Windows junk few of us want, need, or asked for just puts unnecessary demands on it and makes it inefficient, slow, and unreliable. Thanks again!
Actually, I haven’t had a single hiccup with Windows 11. I bought a new HP gaming laptop a year ago and it has been flawless. I have not made any moves to remove bloatware and it has not gotten in my way at all. To me, Linux is a fucken pain in the ass and I hate it with a passion for desktop use. So I will just leave things alone on my laptop and enjoy the experience for now. But hey, that is just me.
Edit: I should note that this new laptop came with W11 installed, and I think this is key. Trying to upgrade from W10 to 11 by and large does not work out so well. It has to be a clean install. Just food for thought…
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there are ways to get around the win11 TPU requirement if you just want the peace of mind of security updates.
if your hardware runs fine for your usage don’t bother upgrading unless you want to lol.
I’ve on and off had issues with Win11 that I was dual booting Mint for a while overall if you don’t need any apps that are windows only it’s pretty easy to use Mint and has a similar layout to windows.
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